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post #31 of 37 Old 05-26-2009, 11:23 PM
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I agree with the suggestions from above. I have a mare that fought with thrush for 2 years even though I was obsessively vigilant - her problem was just the angle the farriers were using (I went through 3 before I got one I liked) was wrong. I know that wasn't your issue, but you would be amazed at what wonders a good trim at the right angles will do. There are some great websites where you can read more about barefoot and the advantages of going barefoot. I wanted to see the profile to see if the angle was off, and it looks like it is a bit. You can add a biotin supplement while you're waiting for the new hoof to grow out - it helps LOADS.
Try out Home of Swedish Hoof School they have lots of info (LOL a swedish site too ha ha!!)
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post #32 of 37 Old 05-27-2009, 01:21 AM
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I would seek a new farrier ( or barefoot specialist ) if I were you a horse should not be footsore after seeing a farrier
In my opinion your horses feet are too long - you can see the toe ' growing away ' which is not helping .
A horses hoof should grow in a straight line fron coronary band to heel or toe in a straight line - there should be no convex shape , You can loose or dump the toe without problems provided it is not severe.
Seek a good barefoot farrier - if you don't try something else you are heading for a permenantly lame horse
Also look into your horses feed
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post #33 of 37 Old 05-27-2009, 03:27 AM
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I also think your boy would do better barefoot. When I read your first post I immediately thought of this:

These pics are from my barefoot trimmer's website (Case Studies | Pegasus Equine Podiatry),
and it goes to show what correct barefoot trimming can do for a horse.
The story for this horse is on the link I posted above.
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post #34 of 37 Old 05-27-2009, 08:15 PM
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Solo, cider vinegar and water will not do any harm for sure. It is an effective preventative measure for "bad" fungi. Go ahead.

7ponies mentioned "opening" the cracks to be able to clean them. I don't agree with this generally speaking. That can open things up even more to infection/bacteria and weakens the structure again. Discuss your horse's particular situation with your new farrier. Same with the "nip a notch back right on the crack at the wall" -- I'm not exactly sure what 7ponies meant by that exactly, but my method is to file the wall back evenly at the point the crack is at the ground so that the weight isn't concentrated at the crack. A "v" cut-out at the same place actually encourages the crack to continue to spread. Other people will file a horizontal notch at the highest point of the crack in an effort to stop the crack from continuing upward; this doesn't work either, IMO.

You are at the point now where you really need to get someone there to look at your horse, talk WITH you about the care (s)he proposes and you need to then go forward. Until then (and after), read, read, read so that you know what questions to ask and whether the answers you get make sense.

Please post new pics once you have the new farrier out.

Good luck and your horse is lucky you are looking out for him!
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post #35 of 37 Old 05-28-2009, 07:03 AM
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You might find you will be alble to ride him right away, he is not limping now right? You of course shouldn't ride a lame horse but if he is not in any pain light exercise on soft footing is good. The more movement the more hoof growth. Know that abcesses can be apart of healing. The dead tissue already in the hoof is what causes the infection. They are horrible and painful to go thru. My horses have not had 1 abcess since they went barefoot.
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post #36 of 37 Old 05-28-2009, 07:07 AM
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One more thing :) the Pete Ramey book "Making Natural Hoof Care Work for You" helped me understand the hoof. Seriously before this book I just pretended to know what a white line was and how the angles should look. I was ver very clueless. It will make you obsessed with hooves. When you see the healing that takes place its very hard not to tell every horse person you know about natural trimming and alot of them don't want to hear it!
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post #37 of 37 Old 05-29-2009, 04:46 PM
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Hey there,

From the looks of the pictures, yes, pull those shoes as fast as you can! Also, I agree with everything that was said about what needs to be done to your horses hooves and I would just like to add that the bars are too long as well. They need to be brought back to about the midpoint of the frog. Right now, they almost at the tip of the frog and are laying over on the sole of the hoof. Careful when you bring it back though, with the bar laying over like the that the sole cornium cannot actually create sole horn so you may hit blood there - but that is okay, within hours, sole will start to grow anyways.

The frog could actually be brought back a little too and trimmed down near the point. You have to make sure that there is concavity there so the coffin bone has room to decend upon weight bearing. Right now everytime your horse puts weight on that hoof, the coffin bone comes down and the hoof walls cannot expand because they are fixated in one spot due to the shoe. Hoof mechanism needs to be restored sooner better than later.

As for trimmers in your area - sorry dear - I'm from Canada, can't help you but the internet sure can! Google Jamie Jackson, Pete Ramey, James Welz, Dr. Strasser. All of these trimmers/advocates have websites that will help you find trimmers in your area!

Good Luck and keep us posted!

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