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    02-18-2013, 12:18 PM
Originally Posted by DWABoat    
I purchased Angel in June from a person I know well. He had her for over 3 years. Neither of us has put any type of dressing or coloring on her hooves. I will ask my farrier if he put anything on her feet. I helped him on the last trimming, so I know he did not put any type of substance on her feet. Since I am new to horses (about 9 months), I really don't know a normal hoof from an abnormal hoof.

Thank all of you for your information. I will spend a little more time caring for her hooves especially during the winter months.

I think the things you should do is have regular trims (6wks?), watch and manage flares, and pick out feet daily. That's preventative. I do, on occasion, go around the white line/hoof line, and sides of frogs with durasole if she flares or as a preventative.

Loosie and Trinity already have links to where you can learn the basic -what is good and what is not good. The more hooves you look at the easier it will be to catch something brewing. One time last year, the farrier went 'poof' and disappeared. I wasn't paying attention to her hooves other than how long they were getting before I realized he was not coming back. By the time another farrier got to her, a rear hoof heel- end frog was eaten away and shredded by thrush! Nasty and my fault. Some of it was pretty deep. I was so embarrassed , esp coming from me who is so hoof obsessed.

You'll do fine. I never knew what WLD was till my horse got it.
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    02-18-2013, 05:25 PM
'Drop foot' .... laminae 'falling out'?? Never heard that one before!
I know right! I has never heard of it either, but luckily/unluckily for me I got to see the hoof. The poor girl could barely walk, and her hoof had jagged lines all across the front. When my friend picked it up I swear I gagged, the smell was horrible! Looking into the gap, you could see the progression, it had travelled behind the hoof wall and the hoof sole, and literally nothing in between + very deep. I've recently found out that they got an x-ray on her hoof and it turns out her pedal bone is beginning to twist down and through what left of her hoof! Apparently you can see a part of it by looking down into the hoof, as a result of this they now need to put her down...
I just didn't want to describe it with that much detail and scare anyone

DWABoat, the above statement doesn't apply to your mare! It is just something that I have seen The copper sulfate can be applied either in a bucket with a bit of water (best to ask your farrier on how many parts per water, as it depends on the level of severety) but her foot will need to stand in the bucket for a few minutes a day, then left to dry off, or melt a bit of wax and when it becomes pliable add in the copper sulfate! If you get your timing right (use a dry hoof) the wax should create a 'plug' this will not only deliver the treatment, but allow the hoof to become sealed off. If it comes off, it just means the wax wasn't at the right consistency to attach to the hoof. My other suggestion would be maybe a hoof boot until it is all cleared up, this again will help keep the hoof clean and dry.

Horses are amazing animals but unfortunately they like to throw us little curve balls every now and again! Keep an eye on it, keep up general maintence and I'm sure she'll be ok. It's obvious that her care about her wellbeing, and picking it up early will help decrease healing time. Good Luck!!
    02-18-2013, 05:39 PM
Its mechanical founder from white line disease is what you describe. IMO it was probably salvageable by someone knowledgeable and with some skill, but that is another story.
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    02-18-2013, 05:46 PM
it was probably salvageable by someone knowledgeable and with some skill, but that is another story.
I completely agree, but I'm not trying to guilt trip them as it's my belief it would be hard enough to put down a horse knowing you did that to them.
    02-18-2013, 06:47 PM
Well, it can progress to a point where it isnt salvageable anymore. If the bone is infected, well....I would euth at that point. It depends. Someone failed that horse tho somewhere along the way. I can barely imagine white line so bad that it stinks badly and the horse is about to penetrate the sole from lack of any white line support. Its almost unfathomable to me. Unless the horse actually did founder and there are other things going on. Also possible.
    02-18-2013, 07:00 PM
^^ Sounds like serious mechanical founder and serious seedy toe/WLD. Which came first - chicken or egg??

Trinity, it is startlingly common, when you start studying hoof capsules & the pedal bones that come out of them, how even rather 'minor' but chronic(untreated) cases of seedy will affect/infect the bone - divots in P3 corresponding to the seedy! I would hazard a guess that most cases of long term seedy have affected the corium & bone.

I've even seen P3 bones that were virtually cloven because of it!! At that sort of severity I think rehab to even paddock soundness is getting difficult!
    02-20-2013, 11:02 AM
What about the horse having thrush and WLD? Could thrush also be growing in there? That would stink!

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