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    09-13-2012, 04:58 PM
  #11
Yearling
Either way.

Its truely not necessary to have the farrier do it however if you have a sore horse who needs support NOW.

Although after a fresh trim is great, they also make a great temporary shoe if necessary if a horse throws a shoe or so forth. They don't need to be padded (in fact I prefer no pads) but you do need to cure them with the foot loaded (IE pick up the offside foot with the casted foot on a garden kneeling pad so it conforms to the foot.

JMO as a trimmer.

Heres a video. This girl has lots more how to videos. She calls her brand of casting Equi Socks but its still just casting.

Casting is available in do it yourself kits from several places if you wish to purchase them that way. I buy it by the box from medical supply places. Lots cheaper.
     
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    09-15-2012, 07:39 PM
  #12
Foal
Thank you for all the suggestions! I've contacted a barefoot trimmer, Betterbebarefoot.com, and hope I can make an appointment with them to see about casting or any other alternatives!
     
    09-17-2012, 10:07 AM
  #13
Started
Trinity, that doesn't look like a finished barefoot trim to me.. Looks more like a pasture trim.. Just sayin..
     
    09-17-2012, 10:27 AM
  #14
Super Moderator
Our irish draft can't go without shoes. She is healthy, she has good shaped feet but a few weeks without shoes and they start to break up and then a pain to get shoes back on her and get her feet right again
I have tried just about every type of boot on the market and might as well have thrown the money on the fire. If I got one that did stay on it rubbed so badly it was no good
I have often used a combination of pads, vetwrap and either duct tape or sileage tape over the top - it stays on and works as a temporary measure but you do have to change daily and watch or use a preventative for thrush
There is a website that sells glue on shoes but I have no experience of them at all
Look at some good supplements for hoof growth and improvement and once she has good feet again you will have to decide from how she copes with work if she can go barefoot or will need shoes back on
A spell without shoes improved the feet of an OTTB we had - his feet were so bad that the shoes just fell off him as fast as they were put on but he did have to be shod for all the road work that we had to do in the UK to just be able to ride.
     
    09-17-2012, 10:41 AM
  #15
Foal
I highly suggest getting xrays done if you have not already.

My horse is hardy, sturdy, strong as they come. I had him barefoot starting in January. His hooves were as strong as rocks. No chipping or cracking. No thrush. No frog problems. His walls were amazing. I could go on. AND HE'S GOT WHITE FEET!

But he was not sound. We tried different types of trimming. The first few days after being trimmed he was always lame. Forget walking on rocks. He would actually not want to go outside. We could not figure it out. And I had two separate barefoot trimmers work on him.

It wasn't until I got xrays done that I could truly tell what was really going on. He had about half of the depth of sole than he should have. He was at a .6 cm depth. My vet and farrier need over 1cm. We never would have known otherwise. His soles were rock hard as well. Growing beautifully. We put some natural balance shoes on him and he is actually more sound now than he ever had been.

My point in that long schpeel, is it wouldn't hurt to take a peek at what is going on inside. It may not be anything bad. But it's better to be educated.
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    09-17-2012, 11:25 AM
  #16
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Appyt    
Trinity, that doesn't look like a finished barefoot trim to me.. Looks more like a pasture trim.. Just sayin..
Who are you talking about? The girl in the video? That horse just had shoes removed and also, she trims LC Pierre's (I think it is) style. Totally different from Ramey's style.
     
    09-17-2012, 08:21 PM
  #17
Trained
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Originally Posted by krisfulc    
AND HE'S GOT WHITE FEET!
There is no strength inherent in the pigment, which is only in the outer wall anyway. I think the reason for the 'white feet are weaker' myth is because you can see any damage, bruises, etc far easier - dark feet still get bruised, but you can't see it.

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We never would have known otherwise. His soles were rock hard as well. Growing beautifully. We put some natural balance shoes on him and he is actually more sound now than he ever had been.
Agree that rads are a great idea, but just surprised that none of the 'experts' had any idea without. Rads will give you accuracy you can't get without, but there are generally outside 'landmarks' that give a fair idea what lies beneath. Yes, sometimes shoes are the better option, but they're a palliative measure & 'natural balance' type are for the short term 'corrective', not as a general use shoe. I'd also ensure those soles were well padded with Vettec or such, to provide support & protection to the pedal bones.
     
    09-17-2012, 08:26 PM
  #18
Foal
My farrier did have an idea, thus why he wanted to be sure by us having xrays done.
My vet said to pad them if using just the shoes didn't work and he was still sore. I prefer to know for sure and be able to fix it correctly now. I had only been using this particular farrier for a two months. He could tell that there was something else going on. He is a very good farrier and was trimming him amazingly well. But he was still not quite right. So he could tell that there was more going on and wanted to know for sure instead of make my horse considerably uncomfortable every month and a half.

And yes, I know the white thing is a myth. I was trying to be sarcastic but I see that didn't transmit over the interwebs very well.
     
    09-17-2012, 08:35 PM
  #19
Foal
I would love to know what these "landmarks" are as well if you wouldn't mind sharing.
     
    09-17-2012, 08:52 PM
  #20
Foal
Any horse I've had that is choppy/has sore feet/has had founder/is foundering/bad feet/ect, I've always worked around the knee. If you start scratching around your horses knees (especially behind the knee for those founder cases) you'll release muscles, restore blood flow/muscle movement, and ultimately have a horse with fine feet. You'll know that you've got the spot when a horse starts pawing when you scratch around, stomps and snorts. This may sound a little weird, but if you pick up any kind of anatomy book for horses and look at the let, all the muscles that control the foot attach in around the knee and its like having a tight muscle in your back. Those muscles then proceed to cut off blood flow with the veins that travel the same path up the leg, and you end up with all of these different symptoms. If you're willing to give a good scratch, you will see the horse's reaction.
     

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