hoof trim on my mini on Monday...he is still VERY sore! (Xpost)

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    11-17-2010, 09:40 AM
hoof trim on my mini on Monday...he is still VERY sore! (Xpost)

I am crossposting this on the miniature horse board.

I did a search on this forum and got a good bit of info. I would like a little more, though. I just feel AWFUL. My mini, Bruno, is hobbling around, in obvious pain. His hooves were trimmed on Monday afternoon. He is eating just fine, grazing in the pasture right now, whinnies with happiness when he sees me, as usual. But, he is VERY slow to move and I can see his feet are tender. It is so hard for me to watch.

PLEASE tell me there is no chance that irreversible damage has been done.

Also, I saw various suggestion about soaking his feet. What should I use? He is really bad about letting me pick up his hooves, especially his back ones. Now that he is in pain, I am sure he will be even more skittish when I try to pick them up.

In the farrier's defense, Bruno's hooves were VERY chipped and I guess he filed them down past the chips...I am guessing it is like if my fingernail had a chip down to the quick, if I tried to even it out, my nail would be very short, to the quick. Of course maybe this is NOT what the farrier should have done?

Please give me suggestions on how to make him feel better. Thanks!
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    11-17-2010, 11:40 AM
Green Broke
Some pictures of the feet would be helpful.

Even if the horse's feet are really chipped, the farrier should have been able to trim him without making him sore. There may have been some chips left, but given that he has healthy growing feet, those would have been gone the next time he was trimmed in 4-6 weeks.

To help alleviate his pain, I would give him some bute or asprin (ask your vet for dosage) and buy some Durasole. Durasole is a topical treatment than you put on every 2-3 days to the bottom of his feet. It will help retain sole (so it doesn't shed) and thicken the bottom of his feet some.

Some people recommend using Venice Turpentine on the bottoms of sore feet, but I have not tried that myself.

No matter what you do, it will take some time for his feet to feel better if he's that sore. Give it a week or two, and in the mean time, find a new farrier/trimmer!
    11-17-2010, 02:50 PM
Yeah, I really like this farrier's personality, but this is the second time he has caused my horses pain (floated my other mini's teeth a few months ago, he could barely eat for a few days) so to hell with personality!

My feed store nearby does not carry durasole, but they do have venice turpentine. I am going to google that and see what info I can find.

Anyone have any opinions on arnica montana...either applied topically or ingested?

I am going to buy stuff in an hour, whatever I decide. Might call some of my horsey friends and see if anyone has durasole.

    11-17-2010, 03:56 PM
Does venice turpentine also relieve pain???
    11-17-2010, 07:43 PM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by dirtymartini    
does venice turpentine also relieve pain???
I don't think so. I think it's just for toughening the feet. Soaking in epsom salts is good for relieving minor foot aches. Use hot water. However, that will soften his feet and might make him more sore later. Personally, I'd just use some bute or asprin.
    11-17-2010, 08:48 PM
Thank you. I was at the feed store, buying VT...and a guy overheard me, he called his farrier, who does race horses. The guy was really into the issue and his farrier wold me to come to his barn, he gave me some sort of mixture to put on his hooves...then some gauze with another salve...and told me to wrap with duct tape. I was so grateful for th help, and he did not charge me, and he seemed so passionate. STILL...I was concerned...what was this crap he was giving me? By the time I got home and walked my mini to his paddock to feed him, he seemed MUCH better. So much so, that I did not want to mess with this weird concoction given to me in a used plastic water bottle...just seemed creepy.

If my mini is not totally better by tomorrow, I am calling the vet.

Thanks for the input, everyone!
    11-17-2010, 08:55 PM
Originally Posted by dirtymartini    
In the farrier's defense, Bruno's hooves were VERY chipped and I guess he filed them down past the chips...I am guessing it is like if my fingernail had a chip down to the quick, if I tried to even it out, my nail would be very short, to the quick. Of course maybe this is NOT what the farrier should have done?
Farriers make mistakes like everyone else, but chipping is no excuse to go so short as to make a horse sore. Most likely too much sole was removed during the trimming...that is what makes them sore, and it can easily take 1-2 weeks to toughen back up.

Never accept a horse being sore after a trim as one of those things that is part of having a horse. It's your money and your horse; let your farrier know you're not happy and/or find another one.

If he's so sore that he's hobbling around, bute is about the best thing you can give to get some pain relief.
    11-18-2010, 08:12 AM
Thank you. I already found another farrier. I am ashamed to admit I went with the cheapest farrier...but he was recommended to me by a friend with a show horse.

My other mini is just fine...but I will say his feet are good. Bruno has weird looking feet...I think the farrier I used has a generic clip and file for hooves, and I think Bruno need a more specialized, attentive trim.
    11-19-2010, 12:30 AM

I'd go the obnoxious character who's good at his job over a bad farrier who's nice any day if that were the only choice! You live an learn, unfortunately, and it's likely your pony will be fine again eventually(altho can't say anything much without more details). This sort of thing is why I think it's so important for owners to learn the principles & theory of hoof care & not just trust the 'experts'. Otherwise how else do you know whether they're a good, bad or otherwise 'expert'? At least the farrier has done the damage in one fell swoop, painful for the pony but hopefully just short term, rather than the gradual & chronic damage many do that often goes unnoticed by owners until the horse is seriously or even 'incurably' lame.

I wouldn't personally bother with Durasole or such, as it's not toughening he needs, but protection. Thinning the sole has left your boy with very little between his sensitive solar corium(the thin meaty bit around the bone) and the outside world. I'd pad his feet asap, to hopefully avoid him getting bruised/abscessed soles, which will lead to worse probs.

Unfortunately, your mini is not likely to be better in only one more day, and depending on the extent of bruising he's copped, it could be a while. There is little a vet can do aside from proscribe bute or such for the pain. He just needs his feet protected until enough new sole has a chance to grow back.

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