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post #1 of 12 Old 08-15-2011, 03:06 AM Thread Starter
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Hoof Trimming- Correct Toeing Out or Not?

I've heard different opinions on this, and would like other educated or otherwise professional ideas on this matter.

If a horse toes out (specifically in the front feet for the purposes of this question) like this ( Google Images ), but is sound, would you use corrective trimming to 'straighten them out'? Meaning, rasp the inside wall down further than the outside wall to make their legs appear straight until the hoof grows out again?

Would that 'torque' the leg too much, or is it of benefit?

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... would you use corrective trimming to 'straighten them out'? Meaning, rasp the inside wall down further than the outside wall to make their legs appear straight until the hoof grows out again?

Would that 'torque' the leg too much, or is it of benefit?

Thanks.
The image presents an example of a conformational defect called fetlock valgus. "Corrective" trimming is contra-indicated in these cases and, as you have suggested, will create rotational torque.

The carpal, fetlock, pastern and coffin joints (common names) are all ginglymus or "hinge" joints. They are designed to permit motion only in the dorsal/palmar plane.

While there is some medial/lateral "play" in these joints, intentionally creating imbalance in the supportive distal surface of the adult hoof will have a cumulative deleterious effect on the joints of the distal limb.

All that said, the distal limb joints of a foal may allow for some correction in the first few months of life, before ossification of the epiphyseal plates occurs.

In summary, it is generally incorrect to intentionally create medial/lateral imbalance in the hoof.

Cheers,
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post #3 of 12 Old 08-15-2011, 11:01 AM
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Absolutely agree with Horseman.. Correction can only be accomplished when very young. My mare, Heidi toes in big time. I was told by her breeder she did not when they sold her as a weanling. Whoever had her during the next few months did not take care with her trimming and now her pasterns turn in.. We trim to the sole/hoof not to "prettify".. ;)

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Thanks for the information, Mark!
That's pretty much what I had guessed, and I won't, or won't allow, any farriers to 'correctively' trim my horse's feet again.

If anyone else has another opinion on this matter I'm definitely still open to hearing it.

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Totally agree with Horseman!
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Great info thanks! (storing away) i'm like an info hoarder when it comes to horse stuff lmao!
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The opposite happened to my mini stallion, when we got him our farrier trimmed him too short on the outside for awhile (i was 9 had no idea what was going on) and now he toes out slightly, just enough to be noticeable to those who are around him often...grrrr
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They can help breakover a bit based on wear pattern of shoe or foot. That doesn't alter balance but makes it easier for the foot to 'turn' over.
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The image presents an example of a conformational defect called fetlock valgus. "Corrective" trimming is contra-indicated in these cases and, as you have suggested, will create rotational torque.

The carpal, fetlock, pastern and coffin joints (common names) are all ginglymus or "hinge" joints. They are designed to permit motion only in the dorsal/palmar plane.

While there is some medial/lateral "play" in these joints, intentionally creating imbalance in the supportive distal surface of the adult hoof will have a cumulative deleterious effect on the joints of the distal limb.

All that said, the distal limb joints of a foal may allow for some correction in the first few months of life, before ossification of the epiphyseal plates occurs.

In summary, it is generally incorrect to intentionally create medial/lateral imbalance in the hoof.

Cheers,
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All that from a cartoon picture.?:roll:
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All that from a cartoon picture.?:roll:
I described the situation as well! Are you of the same opinion as Horseman? I see in your signature that you're a farrier.

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