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post #1 of 15 Old 07-01-2013, 11:13 AM Thread Starter
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Hooves getting flared between trims

I'm not happy with how Jasper's feet are doing, the hoof wall is growing so much after 3 weeks that the feet are getting pretty bad flares. Unfortunately I didn't have time to get a picture today, but they look about like this. I'll attach some pictures that are 4 or so days after a trim.( sorry I don't have any pictures of his rear feet)

Sooo, getting to the point, I've been reading through anything I can find on bare foot trimming, and I really want to get a rasp and do touch ups between the 5 weeks that the farrier comes. I decided to ask the barn owner/trainer what her thoughts were on his feet. I don't own Jasper, but the owners are totally open to whatever I would like to do(they aren't very well informed about horses...), so I make sure to ask the barn owner what she thinks I should do. Well, the barn owner just keeps saying that "it's good" that his hooves are growing so much, and that it doesn't matter. She said you shouldn't trim a horses hooves too much... I'm kind of frustrated now. Jasper seems so much happier after he gets his hooves trimmed, he seems more perky and "bouncy", so that makes me think it is affecting him. Everything I've read said you shouldn't let the horses feet get this flared, what are you guys thoughts? Am I missing something?
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post #2 of 15 Old 07-01-2013, 11:18 AM
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That isn't always from them growing too much but rather a really bad trim job. My horse had hooves like that last year from a different farrier. They were horrible at 4 weeks so I switched back and it had nothing to do with growth but rather just a horrible farrier. May I ask what state you are in?
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horses feet are growing quickly this year. My farrier is having to trim every 4 weeks on many horses instead of going 6 weeks.

My own horses are included in this crazy growth schedule...
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That isn't always from them growing too much but rather a really bad trim job. My horse had hooves like that last year from a different farrier. They were horrible at 4 weeks so I switched back and it had nothing to do with growth but rather just a horrible farrier. May I ask what state you are in?
Yeah, that could be part of it. I'm not thrilled with the farrier, but I don't have a choice Ahh, sorry, I'm not allowed to say, but it's a place without mountains(rocks too for that matter) and with a lot of sand!
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The farrier needs to back that toe up and get his heel more under him. Ask him to do that, express your concerns. I also know how you feel about fast growing feet. I'm rasping my yearlings feet every 1-2 weeks! I would honestly want a fast growing foot than a slow growing foot. Any ill-trimming/damage can be grown out and replaced with healthy hoof growth quicker.
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post #6 of 15 Old 07-01-2013, 05:20 PM
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I really want to get a rasp and do touch ups
Do it. In my opinion, going 5-8 weeks between trimmings is too long. I do simple 5-10 minute touch ups before every ride when needed, or a minimum of once a week.

Thehappyhoof on youtube is a great channel to learn about barefoot trimming. I learned about elpo hoof mapping a few weeks ago and it totally changed the way I approached the hoof to trim it.

You may have found this site already.....but, I think it's called barefoothorse. It's a good place to learn quite a bit. But definitely learn about hoof mapping and watch Linda on youtube at thehappyhoof doing hoof mapping and trimming. She has also created a yahoo group called thehappyhoof which is worth looking into if you have lots of hoof questions pertaining to the barefoot horse.

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Keyella, I would really like to ask the farrier to do that, but she'd look down her nose at me, much less do it! I really want to rasp his feet between trims since it seems like the only way to help the situation, but the barn owner would not be happy if I did that. I'm kinda stuck, if I do what (as far as I know) is best for the horses health, there will be problems with the BO. Yes, I am happy his hooves are growing a lot, but it's just going to make it worse if I can't give them touch ups between trims I'm mostly trying to figure out if anyone else thinks there is a problem with his hooves being this way.
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I personally wouldn't go anywhere near ELPO hoof mapping right now. For such a beginner, attempting to use such methods could very easily lame your horse. Instead, learn the basic anatomy of a foot. Watch videos on youtube. Look at pictures on websites. If ever in doubt, don't do it! It may seem easy, but there's so many little minor details that could lame your horse. Go out and buy you a rasp(A good one will be around $25). Tell the BO to shove it(nicely) and rasp up those flares inbetween trimmings.

You need to do what is best for your horse! Do not care about what the BO or farrier would say! Next time she comes out to trim, ask her why she leaves the toes so long. Make her explain why she's doing what she's doing. Ask her why she can't shorten the toe. If she won't trim how they need to be trimmed, she dang sure better give you a good reason why not.

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I've read through all but one page on barefoothorse.com, and looked around for whatever helpful information I could find on here and a few other websites. At the moment I'm just looking to bevel the outer hoof wall and take it back a bit at the toe and even out the heals a little.

Yes, I've decided to ask the farrier some questions and hopefully get answers. The way she trims all the horses in the barn makes me think she's not up to change it anytime soon. She leaves the toes and heals long especially on the horses with shoes.

I'm still in a quandary what to do about the BO...
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Since Jaspers owner is ok with you doing things for him, I would not bother asking the BO.

Once you have done a ton of reading about trimming techniques and bought a good rasp, you should take some real good pictures of all of his feet, tops, sides and bottoms, and post them here. There are some really talented people here who could look at your pics and give some advice on areas to work on.

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