HORRIBLE case of seedy toe!

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    05-14-2013, 12:08 AM
HORRIBLE case of seedy toe!

Got a horse in today that is awesome. Not lame at all or anything. Definitely needs a trim, toes are so long.

This horse has notches in all 4 hooves, nasty black foul smelling gunk coming out of them. The crazy part is, I can stick the whole end of a hoof pick into 3 of the holes! That's like 2 inches!!!

What should I do? I used the thrush buster I had because he's also got thrush in 3 hooves.

I will get photos tomorrow.

What do you think the prognosis is for WLD this severe?

Oh and in this small town, good farriers are non existent, hence how awful this boys feet are. I've got a rasp, after I get him trimmed I can tweak them per you guys suggestions!
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    05-14-2013, 12:17 AM
I have seen wld create a pocket the full width of the hoof, 3/4 of the length and the horse recovered fine. Keep cleaning it out, and treat it religously, open it as much as you dare without compromising the hoof (I assume you have no one to shoe, so are limited on how much you can resect). Air and an anti fungal are the best treatments. White lightening, clean trax, acriflavin and apple cider vinegar have all been used successfuly. Go easy on the thrush buster as it can damage healthy tissue.
    05-14-2013, 06:51 AM
Hopefully you're not meaning you can stick the hoof pick that far into the middle of the hoof, but only up under the wall? Sounds bad enough in the wall, but it can be so bad it literally eats away at P3 too! It is generally treatable, so long as it's treated as aggressively as necessary - not treating it assertively enough can mean that infection is left which can eat away at healthy tissue faster than it can grow. Sounds like some serious resecting is in order, along with ongoing treatment, so hope you have a good farrier/trimmer who knows how to do this effectively.
    05-14-2013, 06:58 AM
Originally Posted by Sherian    
(I assume you have no one to shoe, so are limited on how much you can resect)
Agree with your post Sheridan, but you don't need shoes for resecting. Depending on how extensive the resecting, it may be a good move to brace across the face of the 'excavations', and could be necessary to protect the hoof from bashes to the 'unarmoured' lamellar corium, but I'd be avoiding peripherally loading such a compromised hoof if at all possible anyway.
    05-14-2013, 07:03 AM
Originally Posted by AriatChick772    
Oh and in this small town, good farriers are non existent, hence how awful this boys feet are. I've got a rasp, after I get him trimmed I can tweak them per you guys suggestions!
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That is trickier, as I normally wouldn't advise anyone not skilled or suitably supervised to dig seedy out. With a good trim & diligent, effective treatment, it is possible you may be effective without resecting. Wouldn't bother with ACV. Pics??
    05-14-2013, 01:59 PM
I'll get pictures today and upload them soon!
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    05-14-2013, 05:36 PM
I've done resections both barefoot and shod -depending on the location, extent of the damage and the enviroment they live in. I also see alot of WLD in donkeys and shoes and mini donkeys is not going to happen! Have actually had good results with the ACV if the owner is dilegent, (it is easy to get and cheap so they were diligent), I cannot find a supplier of white lightening in this province.
If you post your rough location maybe someone can recomend a competent farrier for you?
    05-14-2013, 05:45 PM
You can soak it in epsom salts to help draw out the infection. I have used drawing salves and clays and wrapped the hoof change every other day , until the hole was able to be trimmed out. This also helped keep debri out. I have also used iodine to help dry out and clean the hole.
    05-14-2013, 09:10 PM
Yeah I know ACV & such can work, prefer to use milder treatments when I can, but sounds bad & esp if no resecting, think 'big guns' are probably necessary here.
    05-14-2013, 09:36 PM
I'm just glad that the ACV is working with the owners being so diligent, the farrier supply places around here don't carry much more than the basics - no white lightening, clean trax, equilox, equi pak, vettech etc. I am digging out all the old school home remedies for now, rather than ship stuff from out of province.

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