Originally Posted by apachewhitesox View Post
I got a bit confused as to who you were talking about half way through.
Whoops - Looks like there is a little flaring on the outside(? left side of pic) of the sole pic, which maybe could do with stronger scoop/roll. Possibly stronger rolling all round? - was about Sammy/bare feet if others all look like that sole pic of his. As said tho, from one straight on pic & other pics in dirt, take it as no more than an educated guess.... not to mention just another opinion!
The flat soled thing is what my instructor commented on when sammy came up lame.
Both horse's sole pics appear flat soled. *assuming* the farrier doesn't pare/rasp into the sole, this & lameness that may be due to it is probably not due to his job IMO. Shoes &/or otherwise peripheral loading(entire load forced to be born on walls, no support for sole/frog) is a common cause, IMO, but not at all the only one tho. The NB shoes are a wider web and also covering a fair amount of toe sole area, they should provide a little support & protection to the base of the foot tho. If the horse does have flat/thin soles, I do believe they generally need protecting, at least on hard/rough ground, to prevent stone bruises, abscesses... and also discomfort which causes incorrect movement & function. If the horse is shod, this means that pads or Sole Guard or such may need be applied. Barefoot horses can of course wear boots if/when needed.
I'm pretty sure he said they are natural balance shoes. I think (if I remember correctly) my farrier said because of there being weight at the front or something, it makes the horse pick there feet up better.
Yes, they are Natural Balance shoes, or equivalent. I don't really agree with the idea of weighting a foot to change action, as that's not the only effects it has, but of course, this is just my opinion & you will have to do you4r homework & weight up the pros & cons on those sorts of choices. Again, you may find that it's really just the change of breakover/balance that has helped the horse, nothing to do with weight or shoes.
He also has just about no heel especially on his front hooves. He has been like this since I first got him. We had him barefoot on all hooves before he came back into work. Within a couple of weeks just the front right hoof in particular but both front hooves his toes would start looking really long(this is what I think you mean by stretched correct me if I'm wrong).
Yes, that is what I mean by 'stretched'. I did notice that the left fore looks a little more upright, the right a bit more run forward, but didn't want to comment, as the pics make it a bit unclear. Is he a tad clubby on the left? Of course, based only on what info I have, again, this is more like an educated guess, but it looks to me like he has quite a bit of heel on those fronts(esp left one - is the frog on/near ground level?), but they're 'crushed' forward, so he's walking on the backs of them? This is common when toes are also stretched and IME difficult to address while shoes are keeping the pressure on those heel walls.
Anyway, yet again, just my opinion, based on but a little info, so take as food for thought only. Check out the thread in my signature & attached links for more info if you haven't already. The more you learn, the more objective the decisions you can make.