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  • Shoe pulled off and broke off a lot of hoof wall
  • Damage from dubbing hoof wall

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    05-25-2012, 12:12 AM
  #21
Weanling
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Originally Posted by tanya    
We never shoe our horses just trim them since they rarely get ridden. I had a new guy out yesterday and I think the shoes look sloppy what do you all think?
Your perception is correct.

This is not the work of a professional farrier and would not be acceptable even at a beginning apprentice level.

Very poor fit, cowboy dubbed wall, no evidence he tried to box or safe the shoes. No solar view but it's an easy bet he didn't provide sole relief; at least not in the shoe.

Improper nailing. He drove nails like a carpenter would in a piece of lumber. There's no pitch alignment with the wall; hence the "nice" straight, albeit low, nail line. Used too many nails.

Improper clinching, no dressing. That poses a safety risk to you and the horse. If he interferes there's going to be some bleeding.

Between the poor fit and nail work, this horse is at high risk of significant wall damage should he pull a shoe.

No obvious attempt to finish the foot at all.

Sorry, there's nothing about this work that I would find acceptable.

Cheers,
Mark
     
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    05-25-2012, 01:24 AM
  #22
Weanling
Your farrier needs an apprentice. Then perhaps fit and finish would be better.
     
    05-25-2012, 03:41 AM
  #23
Trained
I was waiting for Mark before I chimed in
     
    05-25-2012, 10:05 AM
  #24
Weanling
The reason I shoed them was because I was told if I ride them they need to have shoes because of the rocky terrain we have around here. Dakota our paint had two front abscesses when we got her I had a farrier come out and fix it and he said to shoe her when she was healed if we plan to ride her. Our mustang never gets shoes we only trim her and she never has problems, but she had a crack almost all the way up her front hoof I was told if I shoe her it will stop the cracking. I really thought I was doing the best thing and was trusting what I thought was knowledgeable horse people. I paid $120 for both to get shod and I wont be going to the same person in the future. I asked the guy how her front feet looked since she had abscesses and he said he didnt notice anything I wanted to make sure her front feet were healed. Thanks to all of you for your input on the subject I really hope they don't have problems with these shoes I thought I was doing the right thing, but I should have just stuck with trimming.
     
    05-25-2012, 10:30 AM
  #25
Yearling
Tanya, your heart and mind were in the right place. Shoes are not a neccesity for every horse, even when ridden a few times a week. My suggestion would be to go to a local feed or tack store and ask for recommendations for a good farrier, whether you decide to shoe in the future or not.

My main concern for the present would be the chance of causing injury to the horse, should he overreach and catch himself or pull a shoe and it not come off, tearing the hoof wall.
This is a learning experience. Now I know $120 is a lot of money, but if it were possible to remove the shoes without harming the horse further, that would be my first instinct. Someone else would be better suited to say if that's feasible or not.
     
    05-25-2012, 10:59 AM
  #26
Started
Perhaps ask your vet for a farrier recommendation. In the meantime, i'd put bell boots on the horse(s) until you either find another farrier to come out and remove the shoes or reshoe the horse(s).

Don't feel too bad - everyone has a learning curve when it comes to all horse things. You're doing your best and you'll know more now for next time. :)
     
    05-25-2012, 11:19 AM
  #27
Weanling
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Originally Posted by tanya    
The reason I shoed them was because I was told if I ride them they need to have shoes because of the rocky terrain we have around here.
Sounds reasonable.

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I paid $120 for both to get shod
It is my opinion that you cannot buy quality work for that kind of money. That price would be typical for just one horse, not two.

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I asked the guy how her front feet looked since she had abscesses and he said he didnt notice anything I wanted to make sure her front feet were healed.
It's very likely he wouldn't know what he was looking at if there was a problem.

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Thanks to all of you for your input on the subject I really hope they don't have problems with these shoes I thought I was doing the right thing, but I should have just stuck with trimming.
Not necessarily. If trimming won't meet the needs and/or performance expectations of the horse, said protocol can cause as many problems or worse as poor quality shoeing. As you've already experienced, recurrent abscesses are an example.

Call Jacob Manning in Riverton, UT and see if he gets out your way or recommend someone close by. You can reach Jacob at 1-435-823-3343. You could also try Dennis Manning at 435-722-4261. Both are at the top of the game.

Cheers,
Mark
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    05-25-2012, 12:31 PM
  #28
Weanling
I would not pass out if that's how my horses shoes looked. The clinches were the first thing I noticed. One thing I've learned from my farrier is that there is a lot more to shoeing than nailing on a shoe. It looks like he just nailed on a shoe.
     
    05-25-2012, 12:49 PM
  #29
Trained
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Originally Posted by Horseman56    
Sounds reasonable.

It is my opinion that you cannot buy quality work for that kind of money. That price would be typical for just one horse, not two.

Mark

That is going to come down to location more then anything. Depending on what I have done I can get 2 hores shod for not much more then that. Now sliders are a bit more unless I provid them which I normally do. Then I just pay a re set price.
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    05-25-2012, 12:59 PM
  #30
Weanling
Around here $60-$65 is the rate for shoes and $30-$35 for trims.
     

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