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post #1 of 94 Old 09-05-2013, 10:16 PM Thread Starter
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How can I help my farrier help my horse?

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I have a 5 year old thoroughbred mare who has a clubbed foot on her front left and what I call her "pancaked" foot on the front right.

I've had the same farrier for about a year and a half now and although I know it takes time to correct a horse's underrun heel I'm begging to feel like my farrier isn't doing anything to correct it at all. In fact after the last two times my mare has had her feet done I'm being more and more unhappy with how her feet look.

Clearly I don't know alot about shoeing. Is there something I can suggest to my farrier to do to help correct this crazy case of high low my mare has going on?

I've asked her about the flaring on the "flat" foot and how long the toe seems to be. She said it wouldn't make a difference shortening the toe when I asked. She may be right on that. Like I said I don't know alot about shoeing.

Anyway these aren't great pics and I can get more angles tomorrow but they should give you an idea of how they are. The pic of the clubbed foot she has more weight on her toe as she was eating. Also she always has the clubbed foot back when she is eating so who knows it may be a "grazing foot" as my old farrier suggested.
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post #4 of 94 Old 09-05-2013, 10:25 PM
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Honestly if you aren't happy with the work the farrier is doing, get a new farrier. Ask the current one what she is doing to fix the under-run, and ask her to show you.
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The toe needs brought back before anything will change with the heel.
Not to mention, that shoe is extremely short for the foot. I won't have a horse short-shod, don't believe in it.

I'll try and get a picture with some lines up in a little bit and come back.

But, the toe needs brought back a good bit, so you may be looking for a new farrier if it "won't do anything" to bring the toe back.

ETA, not sure what to tell you about the club, I'd have to find my books and notes for that, I haven't actually touched anything more than a slight club, so I'm not much help there. I'm currently fixing underrun heels on my mare though, so that I know how to fix.
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Thanks for the responses guys! These are her feet after being done about 4 weeks ago..

I didn't push the subject on her saying shortening the toe won't do anything as I figured my farrier should know more than I do. I'd appreciate pics with lines, thanks!

I will also try to get more angles of her feet tomorrow so you can see just how "pancaked" her front right really is.

I'll get some pics of the hinds tomorrow too

It sounds like I may need to look for a new farrier....
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post #7 of 94 Old 09-05-2013, 10:42 PM
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If you haven't seen a change for the better in the last year then I would get a new farrier. Wow, if those are her fronts she is really out of balance.
How does she stand when you ask her to square up?

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I will try to get a picture of her squared up tomorrow too. She never appears uncomfortable however when her clubbed foot get real "tall" in the heel I do begin to notice that she almost "steps up" on it almost like wearing a small heel on one foot.

She's due to have her feet redone in 3 weeks.. I'm debating giving this farrier another shot and asking her to explain correcting the feet more or just canceling and finding a new farrier....
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Your old farrier was right. This high- low is from a preferred stance when eating and not being corrected ever. I've seen a ( not so good) trimmer correct that with the horse ending up barely pasture sound after, so not a good idea. The flat one needs corrected, that's for sure. If your current farrier won't do it, it's time to find a more knowledgeable one.
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I have always felt that he was right that at least a large portion of her unevenness was from her stance while eating. I'm not quite as "concerned" with the high or club foot as I am with the low underrun foot. Looks like I need to start searching for a more knowledgable farrier in my area..
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