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    05-14-2013, 11:21 PM
  #31
Weanling
Ok, what should I do about the blown abscess? I was under the impression that after it blew it would just run its corse and grow out with the hoof? I have been putting Kopertox on the chunk missing from his bad foot and inside the crack of the other, on the bottoms of both front feet and on top of the blown abscess, when the farrier was out he put Thrush Buster on all of these spots and said that that I should keep doing this to keep it from getting infected or anything..?
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    05-15-2013, 01:51 AM
  #32
Trained
Okay, my initial "visceral" response to the visual of the farriers work is - ugh!

I agree w another poster, there is no reason to have shoes that ill-fitted. They would make me nervous, to be honest. As bad as the "before" feet were, they had a few good things going for them (from the pictures, anyway). The angles weren't nearly as bad as they "could have been", for example. Cracks are bad, but I think a lot more trimming and shaping would have benefited him (e.g. Arrested the cracks, and brought back the toe) far more than what was done.

I am glad he got some attention, but good farriers are hard to find. My advice is...keep looking.
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    05-15-2013, 01:59 AM
  #33
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Originally Posted by Nikkibella    
Ok, what should I do about the blown abscess? I was under the impression that after it blew it would just run its corse and grow out with the hoof? I have been putting Kopertox on the chunk missing from his bad foot and inside the crack of the other, on the bottoms of both front feet and on top of the blown abscess, when the farrier was out he put Thrush Buster on all of these spots and said that that I should keep doing this to keep it from getting infected or anything..?
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Everyone has there own opinion, but thrushbuster is nasty stuff. Kopertox is a close second. I don't have that much experience w abscesses, but in general they will run their course as you said - if allowed to drain and kept clean. Personally, I would use a more "gentle" antimicrobial agent such as betadine.
     
    05-15-2013, 04:43 AM
  #34
Trained
Hi, Considering the farrier was making the best of a terrible job & you wanted(I presume) the horse shod, it's a bit of a 'catch 22' re removing all the flares & such, as if he did, there wouldn't be any hoof wall to nail shoes to. This may also be a reason for his minimal treatment of what looks likely to be seedy. As the hooves were already so compromised, peripherally loading the walls with rim shoes could have caused the horse to be lame, regardless of how good the job.

So.... I wouldn't be at all happy with that job, agree with others that the shoes are too big, too far forward, and I wouldn't shoe a horse in that state, in a pink fit. But without more info, pics, etc, I hesitate to be *too* judgmental of the farrier.

So... I'd get the shoes off yesterday, so you can get the horse well trimmed & treat the seedy properly & start him on the road to recovery. Whether or not you decide to keep him shod, I wouldn't want to leave it any more than 4 weeks between trims.

Couple of other points I noticed, that you said he gets turned out every other day? That won't help his feet, that he's cooped up so much. 24/7 turn out & lots of movement is preferable, or as close as you can manage. I also saw you said you feed grain once daily. Due to high starch levels & indigestibility, grain is problematic for horses, especially if it's not fed little & often. This may be part of his hoof problems. If there are no healthier alternatives you can choose from, feed grain little & often rather than only 1-2 larger feeds daily.
     
    05-15-2013, 06:43 AM
  #35
Weanling
Ok , I already have some Betadine at the barn, I will start using that today.

He shares a stall with another horse and in a barn of 30 there is no other turnout available for him, everyone at the barn works like clockwork, everyone shares a stall, everyone gets every other day in/out. Also, Simons a bit high strung and he doesn't get along well with other horses so he (and I) prefer it much more when he's in the stall because when he's out he RUNS and RUNS and RUNS like a madman, always coming up injured somehow and the horses over the fence beat him up; kicking, BITING, leaving big nasty cuts for me to nurse for weeks.

I don't keep him in his stall to coop him up so he can't run around because he probably wants to stretch his legs, but you almost have to drag the guy outside, and when were walking back up to the barn he almost jogs sideways the whole way. I really don't think he likes it out. Not at this barn at least, he didn't have this issue a few years ago.
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    05-15-2013, 06:48 AM
  #36
Weanling
Also, there's really nothing I can do about his feeding schedule. I can ask, tell, suggest, BEG until I'm blue in the face but honestly the BO won't listen and I can't drive 30mins to the barn and 30min home every time he's fed to watch if he's being fed properly.

Do you think giving him some supplements from smartpak would help? I've researched those and took the little quiz and everything, they are expensive but ill pay it if they're known to work and they will help.

Simon has bad feet, sweet itch, hard to keep weight on(especially with poor diet) and he's a roarer; all of which they have supplements for but I don't know if it would do any good in the situation.
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    05-15-2013, 09:39 AM
  #37
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Healthy hoofs start from the inside out. Its called good diet turnout I know turnout isn't possible every day.

Biotin would help his hoofs a good vitamin mineral mix would maybe balance out what lacks in his diet. I do a vit/min supplement for my horses but my hay is tested so I know what's missing.

I don't feed any grain to give vit /min I use a cup of alfalfa pellets soaked my horses love it.
     
    05-15-2013, 10:35 AM
  #38
Weanling
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Healthy hoofs start from the inside out. Its called good diet turnout I know turnout isn't possible every day.

Biotin would help his hoofs a good vitamin mineral mix would maybe balance out what lacks in his diet. I do a vit/min supplement for my horses but my hay is tested so I know what's missing.

I don't feed any grain to give vit /min I use a cup of alfalfa pellets soaked my horses love it.
How do you get your hay tested?

Also, do you have a preference or will any biotin supplement work as good as the next?
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    05-15-2013, 11:46 AM
  #39
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How do you get your hay tested?

Also, do you have a preference or will any biotin supplement work as good as the next?
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If you have no control over what hay a barn feeds and you question the quality of the hay and/or diet in general - seriously, I would move my horse. There are numerous places that test hay (they generally cater to growers and dairies, so they are "there"). In general, if you know hay - and it looks like trash, it is. Testing is really for hay that is in a quality range, and you want to know "what range" quantity wise - for your particular use/needs. For example, take quality alfalfa hay...there is no question it is "quality" by looking at it, but for what? Milk cows? Performance horse? Yard ornament? If it is high protein, bingo on the first two if the test results are "high protein" (i.e., high end range for alfalfa), and unnecessary for the later. Hence, I would worry more about "what type" of hay to begin with if I were you....is it orchard, timothy, alfalfa...what? This would give you at least an idea of a "range" of quality/quantity. If it has no real nutritional value to speak of and is just for "foraging", and you can't move him, I would get a high quality rational balancer - from the looks of him, I would be thinking "senior feed" (not b/c he looks old, btw...just that senior is designed to ensure they get nutrients and calories) and add some fat (e.g., oil, flax seed, yada yada).
     
    05-15-2013, 01:14 PM
  #40
Weanling
I can't move him for a short while

He is getting T&A and grass hay I think, I don't know a ton about hay but I used to feed these 30+ horses for 4 years and the hay never looked like this. It was always brighter green and softer, this stuff is like STRAW with a greenish tint, very hard and the horses don't eat much of it, just kinda gets pushed around their stalls usually.

I will look into getting him some type of senior feed. Is purina a good brand?

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH BY THE WAY, ALL OF THIS HELP IS SO AMAZING , I AM REALLY STRUGGLING AS A 17 YEAR OLD OWNING A HORSE WITH THIS MANY PROBLEMS . YOU'RE ALL SO HELPFUL !!!
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