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    05-15-2013, 02:22 PM
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I agree that it sounds like your horse needs a better place to live as soon as possible. By 'shares a stall' do you mean two horses in one typical 12x12 or 12x14 box stall? O.o I'd hope not. The reason he's running around like a mad man when he finally gets to go outside is because he's not being allowed to spend his energy in small increments by exercising when he feels like it, so he's like a little kid who has been kept inside while it was raining for a few days. He 'feels his oats' and wants to get the energy out. A 24/7 pasture would do him a lot of good, especially because he could have the opportunity to regulate his hooves himself in some ways, such as soaking them in mud. You'd be suprised how much stalling a horse can affect its health in EVERY way, including his hoofs!

Can you get a suppliment to the BO to give to him? You could ration it out in daily amounts in a ziplock baggies, then give them to BO. That's what I do. Sometimes like DuMor (TSC brand) Hoof, or any flax seed / biotin /vitamin A type suppliment wuold do him a lot of good, I think.

I have a little TB filly that I'm working with who is in the same type of situation as your guy, but I have her on 24/7 grass. Bad, abcessed, underrun, thin soled feet, underweight, and poor internal health. I have her on a Nutrena feed, DuMor UltraShine, and 5 lbs of alfalfa pellets daily, and she's starting to look a lot better. I'm keeping her barefoot though, and having her trimmed every 3 weeks rather than the usual 5-6. She didn't have as many cracks but they're already looking much better. She was VERY lame for a while because of her feet, but constant moderate exercise, good hoof, and good trims go a long way!

Purina is ok...I had Kenzie (TB filly) on Purine Equine Junior for a few months but switched over to Nutrena because the purina feed has quite a bit of mollasses in it, and I kept finding pieces of corn in the feed when there shouldn't have been any at all. Do you have Nutrena product access? If you have a tractor supply, you should. I'd probably put him on Nutrena Life Design Senior. It has flax, rice bran and beet pulp in it, so he'd be getting a little 'boost' from it.
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    05-15-2013, 02:33 PM
Originally Posted by Nikkibella    
I can't move him for a short while

He is getting T&A and grass hay I think, I don't know a ton about hay but I used to feed these 30+ horses for 4 years and the hay never looked like this. It was always brighter green and softer, this stuff is like STRAW with a greenish tint, very hard and the horses don't eat much of it, just kinda gets pushed around their stalls usually.

I will look into getting him some type of senior feed. Is purina a good brand?

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The hay sounds like just "forage", it is impossible to tell w/o seeing it in person. In some instances, such as good pasture and ration balancers, there is nothing really "wrong" w giving them some not so nutritional "stuff" to "play" w during stall time. It just depends on the "whole picture".

Anyway, both Purina or Nutrena make a decent product, and both are sold everywhere. However, I found my old senior just loved manna pro (or something like that) senior feed which is sold in 40# bags at walmart, but I don't think the per pound price was any different. I only mention this b/c ... it doesn't hurt to read the labels and try different products as you go and take into account their individual discriminating taste.

Good on you for being a responsible 17 yo and trying to do the best for your "baby", btw!!!
    05-15-2013, 02:35 PM
Originally Posted by Nikkibella    
Not at this barn at least, he didn't have this issue a few years ago.
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It's really sounding like you have owned this horse for a while.

His living conditions are within your control. If things are not the way they should be at his current barn, it's your responsibility to move him to somewhere more appropriate.
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    05-15-2013, 02:36 PM
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Oh wait, I'm an idiot. You probably meant 'share a stall' as in when he's in, the other is out, and vice vera right? I just though of that. Hahaha.

Seems rather strange to me but apparently more and more barns have been doing it that way lately :/ I'd still move him. Horses don't do well in that arrangement, even if they've been the picture of health for years.
    05-15-2013, 03:04 PM
He does switch stalls as in when he's is the other horse is out , vice versa.

I have know/worked with this horse for four years, he was owned by someone else at the barn before me and when she wasn't taking care of him I started, paying for his meds(tons) , feet, etc. so since I was paying for everything anyway I thought I might as well own him as I have loved him since I met him, he has such an awesome personality.

I thought that his feet getting soaked in mud is bad for them and would cause more abscessing? I used to try to keep him from having to go into a paddock if it was muddy. We have no grass paddocks, only sugar sand, which I'm told could've caused the previous abscesses, that's why I'm so apprehensive to let him stay out 24/7

I wouldn't mind him having 'not so nutritional' forage during the day to munch on because I REALLY don't want him to get ulcers from only eating a couple times a day, IF he was getting quality hay as well.
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    05-15-2013, 03:08 PM
I can get pictures of the hay tonight when I go out for my lesson , ill also get some more pics of his feet for you guys
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    05-15-2013, 03:09 PM

Here is what Doc's feet looked like before I bought him. It had been over a year.
My Farrier said it would take more than one trim to get it right.he has had 2 trims so far.
Here is a picture after One trim. Sorry I only have top pictures no bottoms.
Even bad hooves can get better but you have to have a good farrier.

I will try to remember to take a picture this evening of his feet if you like. They are about 2 weeks after his trim now.
    05-15-2013, 03:10 PM
Whoa , that looks so much better, I'd love more pics if it isn't too much trouble
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    05-15-2013, 03:12 PM
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Constant wetness causes infections such as thrush yes, but you'd be suprised by just how much cracking and brittleness (new!) is causes from the hoof not getting any moisture. We overflow our troughs on purpose at least once a week, twice in the summer, to create mud for out horses to stand in. Dry or ammonia soaked hooves are bad hooves. Our pens are dry lots or pasture though, not sugar sand, so I'm not sure about that.

Can you add alfalfa pellets? They're usually decent quality and can add to his diet so that the cruddy forage isn't such a big deal. I feed Kenzie the 5 lbs of alfalfa pellets for that reason. Alfalfa/timothy hay in our area is nearly worthless in quality unfortunately, right now, and she gets free choice Jiggs Costal hay which isn't bad but not high quality either.

How much hay is he getting?
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    05-15-2013, 03:21 PM
Originally Posted by Nikkibella    
Whoa , that looks so much better, I'd love more pics if it isn't too much trouble
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I will get them tonight. And post tomorrow. He still has a ways to go but no shoes and better feed has helped Doc.

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