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post #1 of 18 Old 07-18-2013, 11:55 AM Thread Starter
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How do these feet look?

My boyfriend has a percheron (black) and a missouri fox trotter (brown). I'm not sure their feet are being cut properly. The percheron has an indentation on his back left hoof and it is documented in his papers. However, it had caused a crack when he was being used by an Amish man. It is almost gone, but never fully gone, even right after a trim. The farrier never files the sides of his feet and I think they're flaring. Also, his front toes are turned out, no matter how he stands. She never works to correct this and his feet are very rough on the sides and sometimes chip right after a trim. The pictures I attached are from yesterday. She trimmed his feet on Saturday (after only 3 weeks) because his hoof wall is too thick for her to cut through. Please also observe the picture from the front of his hoof in the grass. He seems to have a hole almost in the hoof. (I apologize for the image quality. I was using an older phone to take the pictures.)






The fox trotter was not trimmed when she last came. He's gone about 4 weeks now. He often trips and I feel his toes are too long, even right after a trim. His frogs are very far up in the hoof and are not touching the ground (I couldn't get a get picture of them in the light). Also, I've never seen his farrier trim their soles at all. I think they may be starting to get crushed heels, but I'm not sure. Please let me know what you think of their feet. I'm pretty worried about them.



Here's a picture of them, just because they're gorgeous.
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post #2 of 18 Old 07-18-2013, 12:49 PM
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Long toes long heels and flares looks like pretty poor farrier work to need to have hoofs clean and horse standing on hard flat suface.

From what I see feet look pretty bad.

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post #3 of 18 Old 07-18-2013, 03:18 PM
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I think I would be on the hunt for another farrier. This one is going to eventually cause you lameness problems.
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post #4 of 18 Old 07-18-2013, 06:30 PM
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That is pretty nasty. The Fox Trotter not trimmed? Trimmer is ******ed. It's good you felt you needed advice. And those horses are stunning!

The FT needs a really good trim that backs up and lowers that the toe. A toe should not have a bend or a crease in it's profile. And does not need a long toe , especially if you trail ride .

The Percheron. Are his toes rolled but not the sides? His toe looks rolled. It looks like he's balanced side to side because I don't see any jamming up of those horizontal growth lines.

He toes out. You can not fix this after they are a baby. If you try to fix toeing out, your horse will have a shorter useful life-but his feet will point forward. Let him toe out, and don't let anyone tell you that they can fix it.

I don't know how the Percheron looked 4 weeks ago. And there's nothing wrong with asking any trimmer or farrier to ROLL the edges. On the sides, it would help those feet stay together and not flare.

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post #5 of 18 Old 07-19-2013, 09:12 AM Thread Starter
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She didn't touch the fox trotter the last time she came... Only rasped the draft... I've asked her why she lets his toes go so long in the past but claims she's following the angle of the coronary band... I've asked her to back them up before and she won't because "they're correct how they are." We only trail ride and even at that, not often because my boyfriend isn't a very experienced rider.
She only rolled his toes, and did nothing for his sides, even though his hoofs flare in the back. I've never asked her about him toeing out because she's always so short with me and doesn't want to answer my questions. I'll be sure that the next farrier leaves that alone.
His feet were trimmed 3 weeks ago before she rasped them on Saturday and they looked exactly the same. She took maybe a fourth of an inch off of each of them when she trimmed. His hoof walls are cracked and a mess also but she never addresses that... So frustrating.
Thanks for the help! They're so pretty and I don't want to see them have trouble later because their farrier is an idiot.
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Honestly, if you are paying the farrier for a service, they should be willing to work with you and answer your questions. If they are not doing it how you like, and aren't willing to change, then find another farrier. Especially if the health of the horses are in jeopardy. The draft's hooves look fairly dried out, which happens commonly in summer if they are standing on dry ground stomping away flies. I would try and make sure to spray their legs for flies, which can reduce stomping and chipping. I know some people run over their stock tanks so when horses stand by the water their feet get moisture. My water is automatic so I put a sprinkler in their paddock for a bit.
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She's never been willing to answer my questions without an attitude but its so overly friendly with him if you get my drift.... And I do spray their legs, body and face and we've had a lot of rain recently and everything been pretty wet honestly. The grass that they walk through gets pretty damp from the dew. Any other suggestions on how to keep his feet moist? Is there anything I can put on them to help? Maybe like a sealer since they crack?
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They are cracking because of the terribly poor trimming. Get that fixed and they should be fine. Also that hole on the top of his hoof looks like an abcess that blew. Fire this farrier yesterday. What state are you in? Someone might be able to point you in a better direction.
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Haha yeah well after she flipped on me on Saturday for asking questions, she basically got the hint that she's fired. I'm hoping that once his feet get trimmer properly that it will help. I'm in western PA. We live very close to a horse park, so hopefully I can talk to someone down there even.
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Your vet should also have recommendations. But ask for references from the new farrier. You want to check out their work first.
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