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post #11 of 26 Old 09-18-2012, 09:57 PM Thread Starter
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I'm also painting Keratin (SP?) on them every few days at my vet's recommendation to toughen them up.
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I'm with Loosie on this one. Nice explanation and lines, Loosie!
I'm disappointed that shoes seem to quickly be the answer in the face of problems. Its the trim under the shoe that is for the shoe, not the horse, with the steel shoe locking it in. It will only perpetuate and worsen the problem.
Padded boots would be better and a trim for the horse (barefoot trim) instead of for the shoe. The boots would support the hoof from below and promote concavity in double time. This encourages the last bone in the hoof to get back up to where it belongs and on a thicker sole. This would replace the height of the shoe as the hoof itself is better developed and safe all by itself. A 4" depth of pea gravel is also a great developer.
As it is, within 6 weeks of these shoes, the pathology will be worse and horse just as sore, if not more when this shoe cycle has ended. You're right back to square one on this problem....probably worse with this shoe job.
A good balanced "barefoot" trim, boots for protection for a little while and lots of movement will give the horse his foot back and make it his own. What he does with it is amazing! You will be walking away from this pathology and a lot of others as well.
I wish it was keratin and not Keratex. I won't put formalin (formaldehyde) on living tissues!
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So I'm wondering why there are 8 nails in each front shoe? I'm very curious as there is a shoer at my barn that puts 8 nails in every hoof, I won't ever use him because of this. He had a terrible explanation of why.

But I'm wondering if your boy needs the extra nails for a reason? Strictly just wondering here, no critique from me.
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post #15 of 26 Old 09-21-2012, 03:42 PM
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They are there to give options in where the farrier can place nails in case of missing wall or wall damage etc. They certainly do not ALL need to be used in most situations. 6 nails is sufficient most of the time and even less have worked in some cases.

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Yes, I understand the holes.... but in these pictures the front feet have nails in each hole. My horse's shoes have 8 holes but only 6 nails.
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oh i see what you mean, I was skimming lol.

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Haha yes, so I'm wondering if this horse is a special case or what?

I've been told they may need 8 nails for some special reason so I'm wondering here.

One of the farriers that comes to my barn said he put 8 nails in because that's what's needed, that way they stay on.....

Not even going to start on how I feel about that guy.

So I'm looking for a better reason lol.
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Not sure why he uses eight nails. I assume it's so shoes don't come off as easily, but I do worry that it's destroying the integrity of the hoof wall. He shoes my other mare (excellent feet) with only six per hoof.

In any case, new farrier comes back from vacation very soon and I'm on his to-do list. I will discuss our options with him and ask about going barefoot.

Thank you all for the advice!
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Yes, see I've been told (famous words of course) that, that many nails damages the hoof unless they are needed for some extenuating circumstances.

Because he did your other horse with only 6 I would be really curious to know why he used 8 in this one? Of course it seems you will never be able to inform me since I gather he has been fired.
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