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    01-04-2013, 01:55 AM
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Weanling
How long to keep going with barefoot trimming?

My gelding was previously shod on front feet in past by previous owner but I liked the idea of keeping him barefoot if possible. It has probably been about 4-5 months so far that he has been getting trimmed and I really like the lady. It is mid summer here now and has been pretty dry with the occasional bout of rain so conditions have been swinging from dry and hard to wet and muddy. His feet don't look the best right now, they are chipping and breaking off quite badly between trims - some sections of hoof have broken off right back to the white line. The farrier was saying that she is having similar problems with sudden growth from rain then chipping/breaking once things dry out with her other clients. I understand that some chipping is inevitable and not neccessary an issue with barefoot horses but I wonder if I should switch farriers and get him shod at least on the front? In saying that his feet probably arent shoe-able right now though.
I was told about a product called keratex hoof hardener by a neighbour who recommended it but my shop wont have any in until next week. I guess I can't do much until new hoof grows in but wondered if there is anything to help this and prevent further breakage? Even though he is not lame I wont be riding him until the farrier comes again as it doesnt seem fair on him.
Any suggestions would be great!
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    01-04-2013, 02:34 AM
  #2
Trained
Sounds like the issue is that your horse needs more frequent trims. Some horses need to get trimmed every 4-5 weeks.
With more frequent trims, the chipping should lessen, however if you are still having wear issues then putting a set of shoes on will alleviate it.

Keratex does literally nothing for hardness. My farrier uses it after he rasps to seal the horn and make the hoof clean/shinier for longer. Each hoof takes 1/4 of the horse's weight on it, about 300 pounds. A coat of polish will do nothing.

Good luck!
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    01-04-2013, 03:09 AM
  #3
Super Moderator
It sounds like the growth is poor if it is chipping, your horse may need mineral supplementing, but the only way to know what to use is to have your forage analysed.
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    01-04-2013, 04:01 AM
  #4
Foal
I believe it takes about 8-9 months for the hoof to grow from top to bottom, so the chipping that is happening now is probably on hoof that grew while the shoes were on. And shoes... in my opinion.... cause bad growth and other problems.
So if you were to keep your trimmer who you like and just try to continue with it till your horse has been barefoot a year then I think you will see improvement then. You will then be on healthier hoof growth and the problems shouldn't be as bad.

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    01-04-2013, 04:02 AM
  #5
Foal
Some horses have worse feet than others. I have 4 horses and 1 mule. All go bare feet. Did have a horse that had to be shod or after couple day's without shoes could not walk. Tender footed due to rocks. I have them trimmed about every 6 to 8 weeks. It sounds like you may not be getting trims often enough or may need to look at the angles. I keep moorman's grostrong mineral (loose mineral) out free choice. On the horse that has broken hoof wall. Have never ran into a situation where they could not be shod. You might have to go with 1 or so less nails but you can put a shoe on it. Personally, I would not. I'm happy bare foot and using renegade hoof boots. I would suggest you might want to get another farrier to get their opinion on angles and toe length. If your farrier will do the mustang roll it will also help some on chips.
     
    01-04-2013, 05:42 AM
  #6
Weanling
Thanks for the tips. At this stage he is being trimmed every 4 weeks as my farrier didnt want him going any longer than that and she is going to show me how to tidy them up myself in between trims next time she comes out.
I read lots of great reviews on keratex hoof hardener, I don't think it is just a polish is it? Anyway I might give it a go as my neighbours horses hooves improved greatly on it. I have just started him on a hoof supplement that was also recommended to me, off the top of my head it contains biotin? Which my farrier told me to get him on to.
I really want to keep him barefoot if possible, am also going to get my farrier to help measure him for some hoof boots on the front after he has been trimmed next time too.
I am a newbie to barefoot trimming even though I have read as much as I can on it but I really like how patient she is with him. He can be a bit trying at times!
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    01-04-2013, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by kiwi79    
Thanks for the tips. At this stage he is being trimmed every 4 weeks as my farrier didnt want him going any longer than that and she is going to show me how to tidy them up myself in between trims next time she comes out.
I read lots of great reviews on keratex hoof hardener, I don't think it is just a polish is it? Anyway I might give it a go as my neighbours horses hooves improved greatly on it. I have just started him on a hoof supplement that was also recommended to me, off the top of my head it contains biotin? Which my farrier told me to get him on to.
I really want to keep him barefoot if possible, am also going to get my farrier to help measure him for some hoof boots on the front after he has been trimmed next time too.
I am a newbie to barefoot trimming even though I have read as much as I can on it but I really like how patient she is with him. He can be a bit trying at times!
Don't get too hung up about trimming, it is only the icing on the cake, the most important part of being barefoot is diet and movement. Keratex does harden hooves and changes the structure of them, but it can also make them brittle, generally barefoot advocates don't use it. Try this website for lots of helpful info Phoenixhorse :: Index
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    01-04-2013, 02:22 PM
  #8
Yearling
Chipping has only a few causes.

The wall is too long.

The wall isnt beveled well (goes hand in hand with too long if the horse is at the end of his cycle. Touching up in between trims is a great way to prevent this)

The horse has poor quality wall at the bototm of his foot

Last is white line disease or seedy toe etc causing seperation and weakness in the wall and whiteline connection.

Rule those out one at a time and you will discover how to stop this from happening. My vote is for poor quality hoof at the bottom of the foot and/or not staying beveled and getting long and flat. You touching up should stop the problem as the rest of the old foot grows out. Do be sure this horses diet is optimum tho for good quality hoof growth. Many places are deficient in a few important ingredients for a thick healthy hoof.
     
    01-04-2013, 07:20 PM
  #9
Green Broke
The thing that caught my eye in your post was, "switch farrier and get him shod", If the current person doing your horses feet can't do shoes, you defiently need to change as they arnt a farrier.
Whether you stay barefoot or not you need a compete person to advise you. Sounds like you are dealing with a one size fits all type person with an empty toolbox.
Shoes, wraps, boots, barefoot, bars, etc etc are all tools to have, don't think I'd want to hire someone that shows up with only one tool.
     
    01-04-2013, 08:03 PM
  #10
Trained
Do you have any pics of the hooves? It might make it easier to determine if the problem is coming from trimming or overall poor hoof condition. When I attempted barefoot last year, I tried to let an entire new hoof capsule grow in. Fronts only lasted 6 months before shoes went back on. Hinds are still bare. Secret to either is a very good farrier who is first and foremost a knowledgeable trimmer.
     

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