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        08-06-2013, 12:07 PM
      #61
    Yearling
    Im on the same page with Alex. That would tick me right off.
         
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        08-06-2013, 01:04 PM
      #62
    Yearling
    I've contemplated it. Just due to diet. Otherwise, my horse is well cared for. The farrier shoes my horse but he knows that I know what I know. I do have the option of barefoot trimming myself.

    I do keep my eye out for good places, just in case.
    I am going to the barn, last chance for her taking solid advice . Then it's just too frustrating and upsets me to be around her and listen to how she would pay any amount of money to help the horse, but is doing nothing.

    Maybe she's in denial. I'll update here.
         
        08-06-2013, 01:09 PM
      #63
    Green Broke
    Why are the shoes on backwards??
         
        08-06-2013, 03:18 PM
      #64
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by barrelbeginner    
    Why are the shoes on backwards??

    It's a technique from the dark ages to support the frog and heel.




    Quote:
    Originally Posted by princessfluffybritches    
    The farrier shoes my horse but he knows that I know what I know. I do have the option of barefoot trimming myself.

    This is even more bizarre. So the farrier is deliberately making a mess. I find that hard to believe. I am sorry, but I think it's more likely that he's making a mess of all the horses, and it's just that this horse looks so much worse as he had bad feet to start with.

    It just doesn't make sense that he would do your horse ok, and do this job on this particular horse.
         
        08-06-2013, 03:34 PM
      #65
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AlexS    
    It's a technique from the dark ages to support the frog and heel.







    This is even more bizarre. So the farrier is deliberately making a mess. I find that hard to believe. I am sorry, but I think it's more likely that he's making a mess of all the horses, and it's just that this horse looks so much worse as he had bad feet to start with.

    It just doesn't make sense that he would do your horse ok, and do this job on this particular horse.
    I think that's a lot more common than we realize Remember that horse with laminitis that boards at my parents? She was trimmed...barely. Even after everything the vet said,the jack wagon still did one h*ll of a craptastic job on both the boarders horses.

    I did some asking around, and I found out that he's not as disliked as I had thought. His reputation has actually gotten better in the last few years. Quite a few people were rather surprised that he was doing (or not) what he was. A few stopped over for other reasons and saw his "handy work", they were SHOCKED!!

    So for whatever reason, I'm inclined to believe that a farrier can do great work....on certain horses.
         
        08-06-2013, 07:16 PM
      #66
    Yearling
    I've always been a bug up his arse. I have seen him work a miracle on a foundered horse, I've seen the before and after xrays.

    He is right on with the angles he puts on the hooves that I've seen. My horse never had better angles than she does now.

    But, this lady and one other lady who has a 3 year old Missouri Foxtrotter whose hooves were like pancakes with flares that he just keeps doing. I rounded the edges a few times in the past month, nothing special. Now the hooves look beautiful and she tells me what a great job the farrier is doing. I looked yesterday. The farrier did not do her hooves. A mark I made is still there on the sole. But, of course, it wasn't the little thing I did. LOL
         
        08-06-2013, 07:19 PM
      #67
    Yearling
    Update. I told friend that I can't take care of putting turpentine on her horse's hooves while she's gone for 2 weeks. I told her I refuse to touch a horse in pain. I told her that if she believes it's a small problem like the others here, she's in denial cause it's easier to listen to them. I said she needs to call the vet and get pain meds and xrays to make sure the horse's coffin bone didn't sink. Blah blah blah.

    Barn manager tells her the horse should have some pain meds (oh, now you think so?) , and casting the hoof may support it. She says it's all caused by the weather and poor quality hooves. She said she sees it all the time.

    I said to BM, the farrier has seen the horse every month, why was no preventative work done? She says there was nothing really wrong til now.

    I said I disagree.

    BM said I should keep my opinions to myself because I don't know what I'm talking about. And I have no business telling HER CLient what needs to be done.

    I said I would never offer an opinion on something that is over my head. I said I had given the friend printouts from farriers I trust and wanted to help, and printouts of articles I've read about BM said that the farriers I talk to don't have any idea what they're talking about either since they're not here hoof in hand. I said it goes without saying that pictures and details are not the same as hoof in hand. Friend had asked my opinion a month ago and all I said was that those feet needed care soon, they can't be left like that.

    Friend says that her horse is the last one to show pain; the horse colicked months ago and the horse just laid down and went to sleep. I said so that lameness yesterday was from the horse waiting til the end to show pain? No answer.

    BM said the horse has no heel and never did. I said the horse has plenty of heel. It's rolled under, and , until that's trimmed away, there won't be any improvement . No answer.

    So now BM is jumping up and getting the right care and pain relief for the horse, and I am clueless. And farrier couldn't have done anything to prevent this deterioration since the beginning of the year.

    So BM now says horse will get bute every day for a week or so. And she's going to Tell the farrier about the casting (that was her idea today). And BM will turn out the horse at night instead of during the day because she's sunburned.

    So, I am clueless and the BM is the expert on all things, including hooves and farriery, but blames every hoof like that on the moisture and heat, and can't be prevented.

    I said to BM I've never contradicted her or farrier hoofcare done to other horses ever. I've never approached anyone at the barn with my opinion on care or advice , especially hooves. It's not my business. Except this time. Friend asked for advice. BM agrees she's never heard me give advice or an opinion to anyone. Until this.

    Friend says to BM she Did Ask me for advice as a friend.

    So I am left with a lump in my stomach, clueless, have no right talking to her Client about anything, and I am wrong about everything.
    The thing is, you can take one's advice, or take the other's advice. But it's really not fair to tell both that they're right. I'm out of it.
         
        08-06-2013, 09:40 PM
      #68
    Trained
    I think you handled that quite well and I hope that the relationships will be OK for as long as you are at the same barn. I wonder if they think bute will magically fix the hooves. Wow.

    There are some stubborn people out there, but this takes it. Asking for advice, then throwing it away in an extreme situation. So sad.
         
        08-06-2013, 09:53 PM
      #69
    Yearling
    Thankyou, Northernmama. This is one of those rare times when this whole thing did not hurt my self confidence. I gave appropriate help/advice when no one else was taking this seriously, and now that they are, I have no idea what I'm talking about and how dare I advise "her" client.

    She owes me an apology (the barn manager).
         
        08-06-2013, 09:55 PM
      #70
    Green Broke
    I hope the horse can recover from this & be useable again. That is about the worst job I've ever seen-and you say he can do some horses correctly? Why butcher the foot of that poor horse? Unacceptable!
         

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