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    06-29-2013, 09:56 PM
Shod yesterday, head nodding today in trot.

One of my barn mates is telling me what a good mom I am, spending so much money trying to locate his lameness to fix.

I'm going to try another vet who is a specialist in lameness (not from my area and he has really up to date equipment.) Really, he is in such nice condition and so nice a horse, it would be so wrong to not do that!
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    06-30-2013, 12:56 AM
LF heel is still crushed and the toe is still too long. Don't misunderstand me, not too long from the bottom, from the front. Breakover. He may indeed want to be high low, but that is a mismanaged foot. I don't think this farrier can see it.
    06-30-2013, 01:35 AM
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Still seems to have long toe/crushed heel. Is he landing toe first? Tripping/dragging on that foot?

Also, what is his diet and turnout like? He looks quite chunky. Getting some excess weight off of him can help prevent nutrition-related laminitis.
    06-30-2013, 11:07 AM
Looks like on foot with crushed heel and long toe that there's bullnosing ...

Id be looking for a diffrent farrier.looks like he could lose some weight he's on the fat side.
    06-30-2013, 02:02 PM
I personally think his weight looks ideal looking at the picts above and at the new ones. No cresty neck, no apparent fatty pockets on his rump or girthline. I think the sun is making him look a tad fat in the lower pictures. He looks like a solid 5/6 to me which is great for a TB type.
    07-03-2013, 02:53 AM
Well, got my appointment on Thursday for a digital xray. There are no ELPO in my province who are farriers, just one trimmer. It looks like xray is not a real diagnostic for navicular according to my reading but I hope they will shed some light and assist for the next farriers.

Looking at his breakover in my lesson yesterday, my coach was pointing out where each foot's breakover was. The left foot breakover was behind the girth on a vertical line. The right was infront of the vertical angle of the girth. Poor guy.
    07-03-2013, 12:11 PM
IMO, it would be worth it to get the trimmer out who knows hoof mapping. If the farrier doesn't know about mapping then you won't achieve the needed results. I did pretty good maintaining hooves with a standard barefoot trim, but once I learned hoof mapping, (thanks again trinity), it literally shook my view on what I was doing. The results I see now are night and day. And it is also my opinion that you will achieve results quicker if you do this without shoes. The hoof is going to change shape right before your eyes......if you observe it long enough.

Also it is another opinion of mine that the trim needs to be maintained least weekly IMO, while the hoof is moving back into it's proper position to achieve quicker results.
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    07-03-2013, 07:39 PM
I had the sme experiance when I was turned on to the ELPO ideas after doing Ramey type methods for years. Blew my mind how simple it was and things I just never could get ahead with changed almost overnight with one mapped toe trim.
    07-12-2013, 02:19 AM
Smile An update!

I got digital xrays of my horse's front feet and the report of the vet.
The toes are too long, the left heel needs to be supported better with new wedge shoes, the shoes were too small, the widest part of the shoe was not supportive enough at the frog where it was widest, and the shoe is placed too far forward.

As well, I got my original farrier to come out and consult today. I was overjoyed when he said he would take us as clients again, as he has moved closer to our neighborhood. He pretty much said the shoes were not supporting my horse properly, making him walk on his toes because the heels were not supported well. He mentioned that my horse had a tendency for underrun heels, but that he was always able to manage him without wedge shoes. And he took the time to see my horse move - the other farrier did not do this when I told him my horse was getting gimpy. And he also took the time to show me what was happening to my horse's hoof and how and why he was moving the way he is. I was so relieved and gave my unsuspecting farrier a bear hug. I hope we will soon be back on track again. Happy, happy!
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