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    01-23-2014, 11:06 AM
  #11
Green Broke
Honestly, I feel like the fronts have gotten worse. The toes look to have gotten longer. The hinds do look better, which is almost always the case in every horse. Ask her to bring the toe back to a better breakover and bevel the toe. Ask her where she thinks the toe SHOULD be in the end. Her answer could give you an indication about how she trims.
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    01-23-2014, 04:11 PM
  #12
Yearling
Ok I'll do that! How much COULD be taken off in one trim? I have a rasp and stand...and have watched tons of videos I'm just scared to take on the full responsibility...What Loosie marked up, is that how much should be taken back in one trim? When on a 6 weeks schedule I always did a little inbetween to keep his boots fitting right, I've never been sure exactly how far back I could go, always stopped at the water line and beveled...So probably didn't do much good did I? I've never been able to find the exact answer as to exactly how much could be taken off in one trim, like if you can go into the water line and then stop at the white line?
     
    01-23-2014, 07:04 PM
  #13
Trained
Again, reminding that I'm only going off 2 angles of photo, so take it as a rough view. That said, the lines drawn to indicate a/p balance are conservative & I believe you would be very safe making a strong(45 degrees) bevel around the toe at about the blue line. I don't believe it's necessary or good to trim aggressively, just correctly, to balance the feet. The 'gutter' between sole & wall is the foot trying to lose the excess. But check out the ELPO site(www.e-hoofcare.com) to work it out in the flesh. & see if you can find someone who does understand this, to help you evaluate. I honestly feel that if the trimmer doesn't understand hoof balance, telling her to be 'aggressive' - or otherwise how to trim - is probably not helpful.
     
    01-23-2014, 07:15 PM
  #14
Yearling
Ohh last time I checked the list of elpo farriers/trimmers there werent any near by! Now theres 2 within an hour. Have you ever seen any of "thehappyhoof" videos on youtube? I just watched a few of hers and gave me a pretty good understanding about mapping.

thats part 1 of 2, she has a lot of videos that are very long and technical lol! I usually have trouble getting through them but these 2 I was able to really understand.

Blah I may try a little longer with current trimmer, I really like her :( Met her on Clinton Anderson forums and helped her with a website and stuff so I don't want to fire her yet :( I'll get better pics after a trim and more angles. I'm so bad at firing people, I'm too nice
     
    01-25-2014, 12:35 PM
  #15
Yearling
PLEASE go to the ELPO website and watch Gene Ovnicek do the mapping that she is trying to do. Gene and the ELPO are who developed it so go to the source. Happy hoof is taking little parts of it but is not doing all of it. And she can't use her hoof stand or tools correctly either. I just can't stand to watch her. If she got her butt off the stupid stool and held the foot correctly the horse would quit taking it away.....
     
    01-25-2014, 12:48 PM
  #16
Yearling
And she is a liar . All she is doing is taking OTHER peoples research and methodology but calling it her own and failing to give credit where credit is due.
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This website was created for, but not by, Linda Harris. Linda's incredible trimming methods are light years ahead of current farrier and barefoot trimmer traditions, which literally date from the Dark Ages. Linda has based her new trimming methods directly from what she discovered about the internal anatomy of the equine hoof.
what SHE discovered??? Bull shyte.
     
    01-25-2014, 01:36 PM
  #17
Yearling
Hahaha good to know! I'll look more into the elpo videos! Thanks for letting me know she wasn't doing it exactly right
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    01-25-2014, 05:37 PM
  #18
Trained
Hihi, can't watch vids well on this machine, but gotta see above now...
     
    01-25-2014, 05:47 PM
  #19
Foal
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Originally Posted by Patty Stiller    
And she is a liar . All she is doing is taking OTHER peoples research and methodology but calling it her own and failing to give credit where credit is due. What SHE discovered??? Bull shyte.
I gotta jump in here. I have seen every single video linda has made - and I know it's a lot, especially if you just don't like her, but she did discover pretty much all of her own techniques. Not all are perfect, how she handles her tools isn't perfect. Hell I trim, I'm the furthest thing from perfect. But it's a good cause, and she charges no money for what she offers people.

I don't find it impossible at all that more than one person studying the hoof would come to the same conclusions and similar techniques for trimming. Going from her very first videos that show basic trims, to her dissecting several feet with several pathologies, and changing this about how she trims, changing that - Little things over time. She holds the camera up to every little discovery and gruesome finding, and explains what she thinks about it, and her opinions change and you can follow along exactly why they change. She did learn a lot of it herself, through trial and error, and like all sciences if there is only one truth then that's the conclusion someone will eventually come to. So her trim may be very similar to other's trimming methods absolutely. I love her little "ha HA!" moments when she puts pieces of the puzzle together.

Anyway sorry for writing a book on here out of nowhere. ELPO 4 life, etc.
     
    01-25-2014, 09:42 PM
  #20
Yearling
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I gotta jump in here. I have seen every single video linda has made - and I know it's a lot, especially if you just don't like her, but she did discover pretty much all of her own techniques. Not all are perfect, how she handles her tools isn't perfect. Hell I trim, I'm the furthest thing from perfect. But it's a good cause, and she charges no money for what she offers people.
Wow I can't believe you've watched them ALL! They're so long and sometimes a bit over my head so I haven't made it through many of them :(

On elpo's site they have some good pic guides, so that's helpful. I'm a dog groomer so I can do well from pics usually. I'm used to rare breeds coming in and having to do their trim by using a book to follow a pattern haha. I think when my farrier come's next I'm going to ask her where SHE thinks his toes need to be and ask her about mapping to see what she says.

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