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post #1 of 17 Old 02-04-2012, 11:06 PM Thread Starter
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Just looking for some information

I haven't ever seen anything like this before.... but I went through some of the threads on this sub-forum and am now under the impression that this is called "club hoof". This mare is about 15 years old, 17.2, imported warmblood. She did the meter forties in Canada, and is now a lesson horse. I would assume that this type of deformity would cause her to be in great pain, with an inability to jump as big as she did/does. She stocks up pretty bad, and is on Isoxsuprine nearly every day. So excuse my ignorance here, but how is it possible for her to jump that big without being completely lame afterward? Is this something that simply doesn't effect a horses' comfort as well as performance?
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post #2 of 17 Old 02-04-2012, 11:12 PM
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Holy crap. Now that's a weird shaped foot. I'll be interested to see what the experts have to say.

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post #3 of 17 Old 02-04-2012, 11:59 PM
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Search DSLD.

Degenerative Suspensory Ligament Desmitis

PS. Not a club foot.

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Do you have any confirmation pictures of her? I'd love to see what she looks like with it
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post #5 of 17 Old 02-05-2012, 12:18 AM Thread Starter
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hmmm... bnt, i'm not sure that's entirely what is going on with this mare.
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This link suggests that it's dreadfully painful for the horse, and even *Quote* "DSLD has a grave prognosis for the equine athlete." So how is it possible, for a horse to have such a terrible genetic issue to still have the ability to jump without constant lameness??

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post #6 of 17 Old 02-05-2012, 12:20 AM Thread Starter
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I will try and get one tomorrow morning when i'm out at the barn. You guys will just die when you see the way she stands. It's literally like... walking on your tippy toes 24 HOURS A DAY! It looks pretty rough to tell you the truth.

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That's a weird angle! Subbing
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post #8 of 17 Old 02-05-2012, 12:30 PM Thread Starter
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okay... so couple of pics...
One on the flat. (Trot)
And one jumping (4 foot 9 inches!)
You can see more on the trot shot that she in on her toes when she is moving. Very strange eh?!
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Do both hinds present this way or only the right?

If both, then I would still lean to DSLD based only on pics w/o foot in hand.

If only in one foot/leg, then most likely not DSLD but a flexural deformity due to inlury. Most likely in the suspensory apperatus.

Still isn't a club foot and horse isn't sound, reguardess of being jumped or not.

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Without better photos I'll proffer a wild-azzed guess at best.

Bilateral, coon-footed club. Looks "less" than clubby since the farrier has taken the heels down in an effort to create the illusion of "normalcy". Result is... horse finds it uncomfortable to load the heels and hence... toe stabs.

Possible subluxation of the pastern joint; may present thin in the anterior sole region. Would be interesting to see if caudal wedging would allow this horse to better load the heels.

I can see why Bntnail would suggest DSLD and might agree if the horse loaded the heels. The toe stabbing gait/stance suggests flexoral problem, probably associated with reduced length DDFT flexor/musculature structures. Conditioning and "compensation" allows the horse to do his job... for now. Eventually, gravity will takes it toll and things will become more difficult to manage.

Static photos are usually fine but this is a case better reviewed in person before offering anything even remotely definitive.

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