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post #11 of 17 Old 02-06-2012, 12:30 AM
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SubbIng this is interesting.
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post #12 of 17 Old 02-06-2012, 10:51 AM Thread Starter
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so we can all pretty much agree that this is relatively painful for the horse....? and is something that can be "treated" with corrective shoeing?

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I have a feeling that both hinds are going south. The hoof is being what it needs to be in the face of it. Just seeing the outside of the hoof is only giving half the story as well as not seeing the hoof weighted. DSLD is also my concern. Like arthritis, it won't cure, progressive degeneration going on and must be managed nutritionally. No messing around, call the vet and know what's going on for sure. A horse has to atleast be be able to support his weight to stay alive and it feels like its time to give back to her for a change.
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this is quite fascinating. idk that i've ever seen a horse with legs/feet like that.
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post #15 of 17 Old 02-07-2012, 12:24 AM
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so we can all pretty much agree that this is relatively painful for the horse....?
No way to say how much discomfort, if any, this horse may currently experience. Horses are remarkable in their ability to compensate and tolerate.

and is something that can be "treated" with corrective shoeing?
Not really. Corrective shoeing depends upon a definitive diagnosis. None available in this case. Is it DSLD? Maybe, but those horses will almost always load the heels, even with extreme drop (to nearly horizontal) in the fetlock angle. You indicated this horse stands/walks on it's toes. I've seen DSLD horses perform at moderate level and even carry/deliver a foal. In every case, they fully load the heels.

Again, this is a case better reviewed in person rather than via photographs. If DSLD, then elongated support (eggbar, fishtail, etc) is the standard protocol. It's NOT a cure... just prolongs the inevitable. There is no cure. If the problem is related DDFT then protocol could change. Some may recommend increasing elevation in a DSLD case (e.g. Dr. O'Grady). I disagree in that wedging the heels causes the fetlock angle to drop. More to the point, an increase in caudal elevation reduces strain on the DDFT but INCREASES stress on the lateral branches of the suspensories and the SFT.

If DDFT, then wedging could be appropriate. Fairly easy to test in either case but must be done in person.

Step one is proper diagnosis. Then we could discuss treatment protocols with better authority. Short of that diagnosis, we're just best-guessing a couple of photographs. I've never shod a photograph.

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post #16 of 17 Old 02-07-2012, 12:26 AM Thread Starter
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Missy, this mare isn't mine. She belongs to one of the trainers. I would never purchase a horse with legs like that, as cold as that might sound.
But she has been in the lesson program for about 6 months. She jumps beautifully, and was very competitive in her younger years. I suppose this is the big reason i wanted to find out what was going on with her. While her feet look horrifyingly painful to me, i thought maybe there was some chance that they just grew funny and she wasn't in any pain.

I never really though about picking her foot up. I am now pretty interested to see what her hooves look like underneath... although, the farrier may have her in pads, so i'm not sure i will be able to see much.

I really am quite astonished though at how nicely she goes around and how big she still jumps. My horse, being the way he is, is quite clear about when he's uncomfortable or in pain... so it's strange that she could be in such pain and yet go around so willingly.

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post #17 of 17 Old 02-07-2012, 10:59 AM
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it could be a matter of the pain is so normal that she doesn't show signs of it. i know a lot of people that are like that (myself included) who have a bad back or bad knees and it's just become normal so you don't make mention of the pain because, to you, it's not really pain anymore. it's just a standard discomfort that you've learned to deal with.
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