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    11-11-2011, 06:38 AM
Well the farrier will be here on the 18th to do his paddock mate's routine trim. Ill get Merlin's done again then, and ask him about the mustang roll...Ive never heard of it but googled it and it makes sense :P
Corn oil, interesting! Ill look into that.
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    11-11-2011, 09:34 PM
My TB's feet looked just like that after I pulled her shoes, mostly it's the nail holes growing out, but I also put her on bioflax 20, she has been on it for over a year and doesn't have any issues with chipping anymore.
    11-11-2011, 10:19 PM
Hoo--that's kind of bad, and those aren't nail holes, at least not solely. Feet look too dry, as well. I recommend using a topical hoof moisturizing dressing (it won't help much, but it sure can't hurt), putting him on a hoof supplement, and have a farrier out to address the issue as soon as possible. If this persists, he may simply not be a good barefoot candidate...
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    11-11-2011, 10:25 PM
Do you have any side shots? The cracking can be more significant if she has too much toe left to crack.
    11-11-2011, 10:32 PM
TB's generally have a thinner wall, so supplements as mentioned above and what I call a "pasture trim" where they bevel the edges of the hoof to help with the chipping. You may find after some time, also dependent on your footing, you have to keep shoes on him. We have a Quarter horse mare that has thin walls and no matter what we do-we have to keep shoes on her, with race nails(slim blades) and keep them low.
    11-12-2011, 08:58 AM
His feet do seem to be a little too long to me also...Im thinking this could be his feet chipping back because of that. Anyway ill try all of the suggestions and talk to my farrier about it. Might end up having to shoe him, but lets hope his feet will improve after having those racing shoes on! (just a side note, when he had the shoes on they werent in great condition either! They might just need some time to recover)
    11-13-2011, 06:32 PM
Horseshoer's Secret. Made by Farnam. It'll take a few months to do any good, but it's good stuff. Definitely roll the edges. The hoof wall is not supposed to all the load bearing anymore.
    11-13-2011, 08:07 PM

Need better pics to give much feedback. Check out the link in my signature for tips on that. It looks more like peeling than chipping. Also some trimmers(inc me) like to do a bare minimum of trimming when first removing shoes & do a proper trim a week or 2 later, as this seems to work better & they generally need it 2 weeks later anyway. I would definitely put a good 'roll' on those walls ASAP.

What's his story & how do you manage him & have you prepared him? What do you ride on & do you use boots at all?

There is a lot of flaring in those feet, which need to be addressed - can't tell if they weren't 2 weeks ago, but need more now. It could be nutritional or just mechanical probs that has caused this, but a well balanced diet is important, to provide the necessary 'ingredients'. Perhaps they may be a little dry, tho they look OK to me, but I would address this by including essential fatties in his diet(ground linseed for eg, methionine) rather than painting on topical goop, as that doesn't really do anything.

FeedXL.com is a great source of nutritional info & makes balancing diets easy. Generally, if the horse's diet is balanced, that's the jist of it & it's important not to OD on things either, as some nutrients are just as unhelpful as deficiencies & also can be harmful in excess. Minerals particularly important for hoof health include copper, zinc, iodine, magnesium.

Biotin is generally supplied in sufficient amounts from pasture, so pasture kept horses normally won't benefit from biotin only.
I used to think that WS, but it seems, from studies done on Spanish Riding School horses(sure there are a couple other studies too that I can't think of now) that show that while well balanced nutrition is important, biotin can indeed help regardless. It can also help & is harmless if fed in excess of dietary requirements.
    11-13-2011, 08:34 PM
Looks like an unrolled wall that is self trimming.
    11-13-2011, 10:44 PM
I recommend using a topical hoof moisturizing dressing (it won't help much, but it sure can't hurt).
This I do not agree with. Topical dressings can seal the hoof, thus actually weaking the wall by preventing moisture and air movement. The hoof must be stronger from the inside out. Creams massaged into the coronet however might help. Although studies on that have shown limited if any difference between applying a cream or just massaging the coronet band.

I agree with all the posts about roll, that another trim is due and nutrients. My mare's front feet were a constant battle until I put her on Hoffman's Minerals and she has shown amazing improvement.

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