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post #1 of 6 Old 02-27-2014, 05:22 AM Thread Starter
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I have recently started using Dr Khonke's lines in conjunction with my horses daily feeds as he is sensitive to things like sunflower seeds and lucerin. (To "clarify" "recently" I mean last 18mnths). I have seen FANTASTIC RESULTS!!! I mean this stuff is amazing!!! I can not give him the full dose or he goes whacky and feel "too good" but I halved the dosages and it worx a treat :) His coat is AMAZEBALLS!!! Any one else used Khonke's?

I have found I can not give my horse sunflower seeds AT ALL!!! Or he becomes a nightmare. Lucerin/Oaten chaff mix is ok in moderation but if I add Lucern hay to the mix again A NIGHTMARE!!!

Every horse is so different... Blood lines reactions to different things... Certain food they like... Ulcer prone... So on and so forth...

I am now in search of a good hoof feed stuff. I used farriers formula and I could see the difference within days LITTERALLY!!! But an extra $ Per month to the feed budget is a downer... Since he has 3 white hooves he needs something... Any sujestions on a more natural aproach or cheep trix? Or should I just bite the bullet and flip the bill every month???

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If his diet is balanced and the vet deems him healthy and his feet are in good shape, it is my opinion that he wouldn't need a hoof supplement. In farrier school, we learned that there hasn't been a lot of laboratory testing to back up the claims made by the manufacturers, and often times they can be a waste of money. The one supplement that I have heard good results with is NuHoof. But then again, a lot having to do with feet is the overall diet, environmental factors, and genetics; No supplement can truly affect that. It takes about 9 months for the average horse to grow a new hoof - that being said, it would take quite a while to see true and lasting results.

I think sometimes we give more credit to the supplements than they deserve, and we feed them for ourselves, instead of the actual results. My vote: if he has good feet, save yourself the money. :)
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Agreed with Rialto, also someone correct me if I'm wrong but isn't white horn not being as strong as blue inaccurate? I think that it doesn't actually make a difference, and I've seen plenty of horses with either color hoof have problems or not regardless of the horn color so that seems to be supported.
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Agreed with Rialto, also someone correct me if I'm wrong but isn't white horn not being as strong as blue inaccurate? I think that it doesn't actually make a difference, and I've seen plenty of horses with either color hoof have problems or not regardless of the horn color so that seems to be supported.
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2 big reds, I've only personally seen blue hoof horn when someone has soaked in, or ODed their horse on copper! Re supposed different tensile strength of dark & light hooves, the proof should be in appies & others with striped horn - if white was inherently weaker, they wouldn't have survived the rat race, because their hooves would naturally crack at the 'fault lines'. OP, I think that fallacy came about because light hooves show insult & injury clearly, whereas dark hooves can hide a lot.

OP, basically agree with Rialto. If your horse is getting well balanced nutrition generally, then as hooves/hair/skin is part of the body, it should also be getting what it needs. So if the Khonke's fills all appropriate gaps, that should be adequate. From my personal study(not a nutritionist) I think the Khonke's range does sound good. Just that my horses wouldn't touch their RB & they were contradictory & rude to me about it, so I don't deal with them...

BUT the subject of 'well balanced' is a bit of a minefield & many 'accepted facts'(such as Ca/Mg balance for eg) have been strongly disputed in recent times. Especially if you have hoof issues, you may want find enlightening.

Don't know about the sunflower seeds, or what levels are in whatever khnoke's you use, but lucerne is high in energy, potassium, calcium & protein, among others, which if in OD can all have a bearing on 'hyper' behaviour, among other things.

Oh & maybe a case of 'the Emperor's new clothes' but you will not see a difference in hooves due to nutritional changes in days or weeks. Changes to behaviour, body tension, etc, can happen very quickly though.
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Thankyou For This... You Have Helped Me Relax A Little. I Always Thought That This May Have Been The Case... Hence having a horse with 3 white hooves LMAO...

Unfortunately Horse Science In Australia hasnt got "Hooves" In A subject. Only the Structure/Parts and Minerals, that is it. They push for people to do "Farrier School" for this handy little tip or just leave it to the Farriers I suppose. We got to dissect a hoof... EW...

I have done Nutrition so I give him a well Balanced Diet Creation and I have always taken Keratin Into account in the mix. Maybe thats why I saw such fast results with the "Farriers Choice" as he was already on Khonke's. Khonke's certainly made his mane and tail grow in thick thats for sure. Ive had to cut His mane to the length of the new growth. His tail is really thick half way down, then it thins out to the growth where he wasnt on it.

The only querie I had with the farriers is He had a ring Of change around his hoof when he started on Khonke's. A few weeks later I introduced the "farriers formula" and he again had another ring of change in his hoof. This may be a really silly question but this happens all the time yes??? Everytime we change a feed stuff??? Ive never really observed a horse in whole untill this little guy (Maintinance wise) As school has opened my eyes...
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