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post #91 of 95 Old 06-10-2013, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Regula View Post
The horse had been in Softride Boots pretty much all the time since April 12 (except for hoofcare and throwing them once for a few hrs), and has been trimmed religiously every month. And yes, the (suspected) cause for the founder has been removed.

I see and am concerned about the separation, too. The argument of the (new) farrier to leave some of the wall standing was that the soles are bruised and abscessed at the moment, and are in no shape to carry the weight either, so he tried to level the walls with the soles to leave some distribution of the weight, at least until the abscesses have blown. The boots have a frog support, too. He wants to take the walls further back with successive trims. Clinically - for what it's worth - he is right. The attempt of the first guy seems to have been "take the walls and toe way back" and has resulted in ~4 weeks of excruciating pain, inability to walk, and massive abscesses on both feet.

Honestly, I am at a bit of a loss (again, sigh). There is one lady here who specializes in "natural hoofcare", and honestly, she seems like a complete quack (both from my own and other people's experience well before this laminitic episode). She is the only one around here to do casting, too. I don't want her working on my horse, and I don't want to start self-experiments with casting, so that's not an option right now.
Both farriers who have worked on him thus far came with credentials and good reviews.
Oh well, I guess it's time for someone new again...
I had a severely laminitic horse who would get extremely lame every now and then. While he was recuperating from the bouts of laminitis, in addition to a really good trim from the farrier, I'd put Natural Balance Frog Pads on his front feet inside a pair of Easy Boots. I don't know how much support the gel boots you've been using give, but I know that the frog support pads helped Lucky considerably. He recovered very well from his worst bouts and lived comfortably until he was 32 years old.

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post #92 of 95 Old 06-10-2013, 09:50 AM
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I think that even though most of us don't like the way the trim looks, you are right to let the horse tell you. If he feels better, then something is right.

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I already posted in the nutrition section, but will give a quick update here also.
Things are not looking good. Leo has had three bouts of bad lameness since the end of July. First one was front right, the last two were front left. When this happened, he was basically not putting weight on the affected foot at all anymore.
The first two episodes cleared up after 3-4 days of bute, the third episode has now been going on for five days and does not seem to respond to bute at all.
Leo has also been losing weight and is continuing to have a hard time keeping weight on.
He has been trimmed very regularly every five weeks. The vet was out once when the first lameness episode happened. They sent someone else than my regular vet and the guy was virtually useless. So we were all relieved that Leo cleared up again on bute.
Our regular vet was also out last Friday for the weight issue and the recurring lameness. We took another set of x-rays, which actually looked really good. Compared to where we started out in April (when he first foundered), the sole has grown back nicely and the angles are looking a lot better. Vet also checked for ulcers and took some blood for renal / liver values and systemic inflammation markers. Everything came back ok.

So now we're back to zero. We neither know why he is losing weight, nor why he is so lame. From all the diagnostics, he shouldn't be... but he is :(. The vet now suspects a circulation issue and wants to do a venigram.

Aargh, I'm losing my mind over this. It is at a point where I am not sure whether he has sufficient quality of life anymore, but I do also not want to put him down without even knowing what's wrong. I'm heartbroken :(
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I'm willing to bet you're dealing with abscesses now. They happen after laminitis bouts. There's a lot going on in the foot, some of the " debris" in there chooses to come out this way( im sure Trinity or loosie can explain it better, lol).
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post #95 of 95 Old 08-27-2013, 07:35 AM
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I'd be thinking about casting or booting over pads with a crescent cut out around the tip of the frog, to provide relief to the tip of p3 while providing support under the rest of the sole & frog & relieving the walls.
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