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    05-20-2013, 09:46 AM
I took a long look at her feet this morning (should have taken the camera out too) and I guess her feet aren't that long considering how much trouble my vet was having when she came outlast time. She's barefoot. The farrier's supposed to be out next week but Magic can't hold her foot up. Putting her slippers on is a patience testing 2 person job. My farrier is great but I don't think Magic can put all of her weight on the opposite front long enough for her to trim. I can't figure how to fix that so we can proceed. She is moving around much better and so much perkier now but those darned fronts are still so sore.

It'd be nice to take off work and spend time researching lol.
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    05-20-2013, 11:05 AM
Get some serious foam material, gardening pads, exercise mats, stuff that doesn't compress easily. Duct-tape that under the back half of the foot, to elevate the toe of the ground. I used to double up on the heel, to have protection for the toe, but still elevated, and could do a boot type of thing out of duct tape. I took them off for the night, cut them open on the front, and put them back on next day, taping the slit I cut shut, adding a layer of foam underneath if necessary. I hope that makes sense lol.
If she's comfy enough to walk around with these, she should be okay for trimming, too, with them on the supporting foot. If she's still too sore, stand her on a blanket, folded for more cushioning. Distract her while trimming. I cut carrots in small pieces and had several in hand, but gave only one when it got ouchy.
It's very very important to get that first proper trim done ASAP
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    05-20-2013, 11:42 AM
Green Broke
^^^ditto all that.

It also helped my foundered horse to four-fold a bath towel and put it under the bad hoof, so he can stand up long enough to get trimmed. I couldn't believe how well that towel worked
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    05-21-2013, 07:07 PM
You may not have the place to do it, but my grandfather had a mare that foundered (he caught it very early mind you). He was a natural spring on the bottom of his property, and her tied her up to a tree in the spring so she could stand in the cold water and cold mud. He left her there for a few hours. He did that for a few weeks, every day, and when the vet came back out he said there is no sign of lameness in the mare anymore.

I don't know if there is any truth to this story, or if it worked or helped any... but everyone in my family swears by it. I have never had a horse founder before (knock on wood), so I can't really comment on it. But I thought I would chime in. Lol
    05-22-2013, 11:00 AM
That's interesting. I wonder then does cold hosing help too? Decreases the inflammation?

We stepped down the bute today to 1 g in the morning for a week more. I hope she doesn't relapse like the last time I stepped the dose down. She seems much happier now but is definitely still lame. It's not nearly as painful to watch as before.

DHW- I am going to try and add some foam to her heels today. My helper (husband) is out of town so I will test out the blanket/towel theory on her today. Thanks for the description, it helped a lot.
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    05-22-2013, 11:57 PM
Originally Posted by walkinthewalk    
I couldn't believe how well that towel worked
Amazing isn't it? It's about the texture & how it stimulates the nerves in the frog as to why terrytowelling - or anything else yielding but textured helps. I use that pimply rubber that you get for car mats in my horse's boots - Masseurs for horses!
    05-23-2013, 12:04 AM
Originally Posted by RiverBelle    
tied her up to a tree in the spring so she could stand in the cold water and cold mud. He left her there for a few hours. He did that for a few weeks,
Yes, the initial 'itis' is inflammation of the laminar corium, and horses suffering from acute laminitic 'attacks' are indeed helped by cold hosing, ice boots, bute, etc, to reduce inflammation. Unless the horse is chronically 'low grade' or otherwise the cause is not treated, the laminitic episode shouldn't go on for more than a day or few. It's the damage that comes out of the laminitis that tends to cause most ongoing 'founder' lameness.
    05-24-2013, 10:57 AM
I was suspicious as to whether the foam booties were working and my question was answered last night. I had my friend help me put a new pair on yesterday afternoon and we must not have done a great job because she got both off last night. This morning she is miserable. Yesterday she looked fantastic! Still couldn't put weight on one or the other to stand to put them on, but moved and stood comfortably.

So, now I am 100% sure that I want to invest in the softride boots. Thanks to Aforred I know which orthotic to get but I'm not sure on the size. She is a little long so I'm not sure if I trust measurements and frankly I don't think I could get her to hold her foot up long enough to measure. So I think I'm going to have to make an educated guess. Anyone have any idea? She's never been shod so I don't even know what size shoe she wears. She is a 14.2 hand medium build arab mare.

Also, if I order the correct size, will it fit if she is a little long? Are they that tight? I feel like she would be a 6 but I need a helper to even attempt to measure so I will do that tomorrow morning.
    05-24-2013, 11:01 AM
If I remember correctly, you get her to put her foot on a piece of cardboard. You use a short pencil to trace around the hoof. At the back, you go around the heel bulbs. Then you measure the drawing.

ETA: Here's a link to finding the right measurements.
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    05-24-2013, 12:42 PM
I'd say wait with ordering until you have her feet trimmed and stick with the home made slippers. It's all practice wrapping a " shoe" with duct'll come
Get the sole part of the padding covered with tape, overlapping 3" all the way around, with several strips of tape, so all you have to do is lift the foot only once, attach strips of tape to wall of hoof and then secure with wrapping horizontally....I hope that makes sense......
Once the pad is squished, just tape another under. When taking off, cut open down the front, vertical, so you can slip it back on and just tape it shut where it was cut.
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