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        06-01-2013, 03:16 AM
    Originally Posted by deserthorsewoman    
    My artistic 5 minutes produced that^^
    Some nasty ringbone apparent there!
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        06-01-2013, 09:02 AM
    Originally Posted by loosie    
    Some nasty ringbone apparent there!
    ....we will talk about that condition some other time.....
        06-01-2013, 09:42 AM
    I don't have much experience with founder or laminitis. I'm so paranoid about it though.

    My farrier got a call from a customer while he was trimming my horses feet a few years ago and the person on the phone was panicking because she believed her horse had foundered. He told her to either find a mud puddle or make one and then stand the horse in it till he got there. I thought that was really smart...I would have never thought of that!

    I don't have anything useful to say other than that. I hope everything turns out for the best though!
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        06-02-2013, 09:07 PM
    Originally Posted by Copperhead    
    I don't have much experience with founder or laminitis. I'm so paranoid about it though.
    Don't be paranoid, but be informed so you can be pro active in managing to avoid it - I believe 99% of cases of 'panic station' 'founder attacks' can be avoided if only people were aware of minor signs & causes & managed/fed appropriately. It's very rare for it to be a true 'out of the blue' type event.
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        06-03-2013, 08:36 PM
    Well the softboots are on. She seems to like them. The first one was a little of a struggle but after she put her weight on that one she held her other foot up for me while I put that one on. They look awful funny though!

    I'm going to discontinue the bute today. I gave her a half dose the last 2 days to wean her off. I hope she will do ok without it, I really don't want her on it any longer than absolutely needed.
        06-08-2013, 09:25 AM
    We've been wearing the softride boots since Monday and she's been doing really well with them. She will still stand with a foot out some of the time but she moves much, much better. I take her out in the big pasture for a walk when I can. Tuesday she got a little ouchy about 3/4 of the way down the pasture so we turned back but then on Thursday she and I walked all the way around twice without a problem. She of course likes to steal grass on the walk but it hasn't seemed to cause any flare ups. Her attitude is much improved as well. She's still using her hay as bedding and scarfing down the grain but I'm almost out of the marsh hay so she is going to get something new soon anyways.

    I called my vet to discuss what comes next and all of the changes I have made but she didn't call me back yesterday. I'm disappointed because I have a lot of questions and Magic really wants to get out of her little paddock. I'm going to go and buy a grazing muzzle today (if the tsc by me has it) so she can go out for an hour or so.

    At the moment she is getting a 1/4 cup canola oil, 3/4 cup omega horse shine and 3/4 scoop of tscs equine senior (nsc 19%) twice a day as well as a hoof supplement. I'm going to discuss other brands of grain with the vet. Triple crown has a senior that is 13% but I don't have any experience with that brand. I just ran out of equishine multivitamin so I have to get more. She is tolerating everything really well and licks her bowl clean. I'm trying to make changes slowly.

    The farrier will be out in 3 more weeks for another trim and we are hoping to get things more under control before winter.
        06-08-2013, 10:36 AM
    Good news
    If you can get the TC senior, outstanding! That's great stuff.
    Have we mentioned magnesium? Can't remember, sorry, without reading it many laminitis/ founder threads on here right now.
    Magnesium for Horses | Natural Health for Equines has good info and a link to a very interesting article.
    If you Google ' MagRestore ", website which comes up has more info.
    Magnesium can help her deal with pasture, along with the muzzle.
    Now I really would like to see pics of the old girl and her current pedicure and footware.....
        06-08-2013, 11:08 AM
    Can do =)

    Fortunately a feed store in Madison carries the TC line so it's something I can get. My husband has to go there to get dog food so there's no extra trips.

    So now my question is how often I have to take off the softrides and how long I should keep them off. I'm worried about thrush etc so I took them off today to pick out her feet and check on them and she is lame without them. Is it going to hurt our progress to take them off for periods periodically? It breaks my heart to see her uncomfortable but we can't afford to lose the integrity of the hoof to a bad case of thrush.

    I'll look into the magnesium, sounds like a good idea. Thanks!
        06-08-2013, 11:27 AM
    We have a chronic case with my fav. Mare and it's a learning curve for sure. When she had trims during a particularly 'sore' episode, I soaked her fronts in cold water for about 20 minutes before the farrier got there. We used those large black rubber feeder bowls at first, and now I have Davis soaking boots a size larger to allow for more cold water around her foot.
    Remember, what's done is done, you can't change that but you are doing all you can now. I know how to manage my girl now for minimal soreness and she rides always in boots on the front w/12 mil pads in them. Just to say, chronic founder or laminitis cases can live pain free, happy lives w/proper care. We've been managing our girl for over 7 years.
        06-08-2013, 01:25 PM
    It can be managed, and doesn't have to return. Of utmost importance, in my book, is to be informed as an owner. What to look for in a farrier/ trimmer, general management. This is why I can't post this link often enough: Bare Foot Horse
    AND...this forum. Lots of folks with lots of experience, ideas, knowledge.....

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