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  • Farrier leaving medial walls long
  • When a farrier trims a hoof does he ever shave around the leg

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    06-11-2013, 02:04 PM
Green Broke
So I'm not crazy for thinking this was a decent job lol. I admire those hind feet, though. That's a good hoof right there. I don't know much about shoes but it does look like a job well done. Definitely better than the horses at my barn! I would say though that a farrier shouldn't trim to compensate for conformational faults.
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    06-11-2013, 03:08 PM
Hi. I really do appreciate the comments. Lots to think about and reply to.

There's a few things that are hard to see. I don't say anything to him, except we've discussed whether a coffin bone should be level. I don't measure anything- I just noticed that with my finger, I can feel the hoof wider than the shoe by about 1 mm ( to explain). Most farriers I know leave a shoe a bit wider than the hoof for expansion. Most farriers I've had have trimmed her heels level/coffin bone/live sole level side to side. Not him. He uses a T-square on her crooked legs to line up her feet. Ends up trimming her so that her coffin bone is not level.

He's had plenty to work with-he's been doing her feet for a year. Barefoot til now. He has been leaving the inside higher to correct conformational faults on a 12 year old horse . Her knees face out , not straight ahead.
I don't want her confirmation fixed by leaving one side of the hoof longer than the other. (correcting confirmation by making her coffin bone lean to one side?)

Based on xrays I had done to get my point across, xrays show a level foot, level coffin bone, when trimmed level, heels the same height. (My trim) If he leaves the insides higher (mostly around 1/8 to 1/4 inch) her coffin bone is NOT sitting level . Her confirmation has always been "interesting" legs attached to perfectly level coffin bones. Isn't the goal normally to get the hoof level on inside/outside?

How many owners want their horse's heels higher on one side?

I will say he's the only one who's gotten her foot a much better angle toe/heel than others.

Kayella, she has always had very nice feet and thick walls.

Can anyone see that the higher inside walls have caused a flare/bulge on the insides?
    06-11-2013, 03:20 PM
Originally Posted by franknbeans    
Honestly-doesn't look HORRIBLE by any means, and like has been said-not sure what he had to work with in the beginning. I will say that you sound, to me, like you may be a bit of a difficult client......he "won't stop......" and measuring shoes/hooves by the MM........makes me wonder. Perhaps you need to go to farrier school if you know all the angles, etc........
Perhaps you could reply without being sarcastic. I do know her angles, I do know her feet, I do know how to trim her , I trimmed her for 3 years ending about 4 years ago, and just didn't want to do it anymore. I am a pretty good client. I say very little which is probably part of the problem.
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    06-11-2013, 03:25 PM
These were taken 6 weeks after a trim when the horse had things almost worn down to the way she liked them.
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    06-11-2013, 03:50 PM
Right foot trim

Here's a thread about the same farrier.
    06-11-2013, 04:01 PM
Green Broke
You NEED to take this up with your farrier. This is a BUSINESS transaction, JUST LIKE when the crew put a new roof on my house last month, and, if you're not satisfied with the job, then the farrier and you should figure out how to resolve this.
I cannot tell if the job was poor bc I cannot see what your horse's stance was barefoot, or if there is a club foot or other problem. Certainly if there IS a problem, you would need corrective shoeing.
I don't believe that this farrier does as good a job as mine bc mine just looks neater when he's done. He is a fussy Amish man, and he takes his time. Mostly I keep mine barefoot, but he HAS shod all of my horses, including the ones who have passed on and my current 3 heads, before.
I believe that when you have resolved your dispute with your farrier you SHOULD find a new one. I wouldn't feel right about someone who puts metal on my horse's feet and it isn't better than it was before.
    06-11-2013, 05:41 PM
Corporal, You're right, it's time to move on. I have asked him several times to just trim her level-not inline with her crooked legs, LOL. But he just does it any way.

She does have high/low front feet. The right is 2 degrees higher angle than the left, however with this trim he switched their angles and put the opposite angle on the opposite foot.
    06-11-2013, 06:43 PM
Originally Posted by princessfluffybritches    
Perhaps you could reply without being sarcastic. I do know her angles, I do know her feet, I do know how to trim her , I trimmed her for 3 years ending about 4 years ago, and just didn't want to do it anymore. I am a pretty good client. I say very little which is probably part of the problem.
Actually, I was not being sarcastic. I was serious. To be happy, you may need to do it. I am curious as to why shoes now after being fine barefoot?
    06-12-2013, 12:14 AM
Green Broke
Have you ever asked him why he is doing what he is??? I know as a professional hair stylist most of my life I would have a hard time doing something to someone's hair because they asked for it if I knew it was not right or didn't look good. I would just prefer they went somewhere else. It is my name out there if someone see's it. Hope that makes sense.
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    06-12-2013, 09:30 AM
Frank. Barefoot is fine. But I've been riding alot and it means going down a stony limestone road about a mile each way to get to the trail. And has been "tripping" to avoid stepping on the stones.

Nvr2many, all I've ever known is that hooves should be balanced side to side. But, He leaves the inside walls higher to bring her leg in so she won't paddle , and reduce the amount of toeing out.
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