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    04-26-2012, 11:01 AM
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Green Broke
Leaving shoes on a bit too long

Well, yesterday I had the farrier out to reset shoes. Anyway, my TB who does not have as good of wall as my SB, lost chunks of his wall next to the heel. I of course thought I went too long before having him reset. My farrier said no its just hoof quality and that some years he sees more of this than others. While my SB was fine, I still wonder if it being a few weeks longer than normal if it could have contributed to this. Now he is talking about building them up and filling in where the chunks are missing if it continues. I guess I am just wanting to get thoughts on this. Thanks.

Oh and it was the back hooves. One worse than the other. Makes me feel like I need to stay off of him and just admire from afar. I have been riding more lately.

Also, any ideas of what I can do to build up and strengthen his walls??
     
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    04-26-2012, 05:29 PM
  #2
Trained
Do you have any pics of this most recent trim?

While yes, in general, TBs have thin walls. But I'm quickly learning, the fastest way to grow a thicker, healthier wall is to shorten the toes. While I won't and cannot explain this part, my understanding is that laminae (the main ingredient that makes up your horse's hooves) is a lot like stem cells. It goes where it needs to go. In a normal, well trimmed hoof, the laminae is free to build up the hoof wall. In a case where the entire foot is stretched forward by long toes, flares, or otherwise crap trimming, the laminae goes to those areas to compensate for the damage and the overall hoof wall integrity suffers. Not saying this is what's going on with your TB, but as someone who when through 7 farriers before giving up on one that could properly trim, my suspicion is your horse's poor feet are partly due to how they are being trimmed. Pics would quickly help determine this.
     
    04-26-2012, 05:36 PM
  #3
Green Broke
With his shoes back on I am not sure I can get what you need but, when the weather gets a bit better, (we have a down pour) I will try to get some pics of his feet.
     
    04-26-2012, 05:41 PM
  #4
Yearling
I have had this problem with both of horses an Arab and a TB (at different times) their hooves were brittle and cracking but I fed them a supplement called Horseshoer's Secret once a day and put Cut Heal Hoof Heal on them once a week and it helped them alot they hold shoes better and no more cracking on my Arabs feet and no more brittleness in my TBs hooves.
     
    04-26-2012, 05:56 PM
  #5
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by tiffrmcoy    
I have had this problem with both of horses an Arab and a TB (at different times) their hooves were brittle and cracking but I fed them a supplement called Horseshoer's Secret once a day and put Cut Heal Hoof Heal on them once a week and it helped them alot they hold shoes better and no more cracking on my Arabs feet and no more brittleness in my TBs hooves.
Thank you. So it really worked??? I have had him for a year, but didn't ride him much (my life was a crazy mess) and now I have really stepped it up. I do not want a pasture ornament! I have heard of horseshoers secret but what is the hoof heal. You apply it?? I will google. Thanks again!
     
    04-26-2012, 06:13 PM
  #6
Yearling
Yes it did really work within 6mos my Arab's crack was COMPLETELY gone and her hooves looked like cow hooves (i'll post before and after pics of them) and I am currently working on my TBs hooves I've only had him about a month and half and i've noticed a little difference in them. I order both Horseshoer's Secret and Cut Heal Hoof Heal from a website called Horse.com their very resonably priced! And I applied it once a week to the frog and the outer hoof wall you apply it like a hoof polish it has the little brush in it. Very easy and simple things that worked very well for me. I don't have pics of my TBs hooves but heres pics of my Arabs feet.

My Arab mares hooves before I started doing everything
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Roughly 3months later crack is 1/2 down the hoof
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And roughly 3mos after that Today NO CRACK!!!
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HOPE THIS HELPS!!!
     
    04-26-2012, 07:28 PM
  #7
Trained
I second the Horseshoer's Secret. I've had my TB on that for over a year now, and have seen a difference in his overall hoof quality.

As far as the pics go, even if you can't take any, just make sure the frogs on his feet are coming in contact with the ground when he's standing on level ground. Shoes or not, if that frog is not coming in contact with the ground, his feet will never improve. Also, take a good long look at his frogs. Are they thick and spread out, or do they look like skinny strips of whithered leather? Healthy frog means healthy foot. The hool wall is just the after product of the rest of the hoof. Get it healthy from the inside out and you'll see those walls improve.
     
    04-27-2012, 06:33 AM
  #8
Trained
Hi,

Yes, thin, weak walls can be due to going too long between trims, among other reasons, as anything which compromises the health of the hoof tends to compromise it's growth & strength. Especially when shod, as there is a lot of extra load on the walls and circulation can also be inhibited. I'd be inclined to think of this as a symptom of needing a break from shoes, among other things.

Good to see those pics Tiffr, showing that your horse has obviously been well managed for that crack to grow out so well. Wow, her feet must grow incredibly quickly for it to have been gone in 6 months!

However, I suspect you're discounting what are likely the most important factors - the way she's trimmed & managed and have attributed the 'cure' to something that evidence suggests is less likely. While diet & nutrition is a very important & supplements such as you mention can indeed have good effect, research suggests you don't start seeing any evidence in the feet from changed nutrition for 6-9 months. Topical goops have also been shown to have virtually no positive effect on health and can actually have negative effects. Lost my bookmarks, but perhaps Puck or someone can give you a link to a good study on hoof dressings.

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my understanding is that laminae (the main ingredient that makes up your horse's hooves) is a lot like stem cells. It goes where it needs to go.
Never thought of them as stem cells, but I really like that description!
     

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