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    12-12-2012, 12:30 AM
  #1
Foal
Need help-Deep Sulci=Deep Thrush?

Last year my gelding had a problem with very deep sulci and thrush as a result. Our 2 horses are barned each night in dry stalls deeply bedded in sawdust for a 12 hour period. During the day they are in their paddock-which unfortunately has been very wet this fall with constant rain.

My horse was going into the winter with great feet-now the sulci is getting deeper again (mainly the front feet) and am worried about thrush developing. Feet were just trimmed = farrier said they were healthy. The sulci have degraded since the farrier was here.

Is there anything that can reverse this process and how do you rebuild the depth of the sulci? Farrier suggested using a dilute bleach solution to kick out any thrush that may be developing-not sure I like that idea-but he swears by it.

Any help would be greatly appreciated....
     
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    12-12-2012, 12:34 AM
  #2
Green Broke
What thrush products have you tried ? Also cider vinegar .
     
    12-12-2012, 12:38 AM
  #3
Foal
I have tried using the No Thrush Powder, and Koppertox. The No Thrush was inconclusive..no real improvement but no worsening either
     
    12-12-2012, 12:44 AM
  #4
Weanling
I use a diluted bleach solution on my guys and all the horses I take care of. Works like a charm and causes no damage otherwise :]
     
    12-12-2012, 12:57 AM
  #5
Trained
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Originally Posted by xeventer17    
I use a diluted bleach solution on my guys and all the horses I take care of. Works like a charm and causes no damage otherwise :]
Wanna bet? Bleach does kill everything, but that's everything, both good and bad. You have to leave good microorganisms alive or there's nothing to stave off the next bout of thrush.

OP, buy a jug of oxine. You mix is 50/50 with white vinegar and let is stand for 20 minutes while a cool chemical reaction occurs. You then pour it into a soaking boot with a 20/80 mix of solution and warm water, soak for 20 minutes and rinse. I just discovered this stuff a few months ago and it is fantastic. It gets into every little crevace and obliterates the thrush no matter how deep. Weekly treatments with this stuff will give you horse super frogs no matter how disgusting it is outside. I cannot remember where I got mine. Just google Oxine.
     
    12-12-2012, 02:00 AM
  #6
Weanling
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Originally Posted by MyBoyPuck    
Wanna bet? Bleach does kill everything, but that's everything, both good and bad. You have to leave good microorganisms alive or there's nothing to stave off the next bout of thrush.

OP, buy a jug of oxine. You mix is 50/50 with white vinegar and let is stand for 20 minutes while a cool chemical reaction occurs. You then pour it into a soaking boot with a 20/80 mix of solution and warm water, soak for 20 minutes and rinse. I just discovered this stuff a few months ago and it is fantastic. It gets into every little crevace and obliterates the thrush no matter how deep. Weekly treatments with this stuff will give you horse super frogs no matter how disgusting it is outside. I cannot remember where I got mine. Just google Oxine.
No need to be rude, MyBoyPuck. I understand that on a biological level, yes, bleach will kill everything. However, when used in a properly diluted solution, I have seen it do no harm. Our horses get thrushy maybe once a year around this time, and a week or two using the bleach has cleared it up with no recurrences until at least a year later when the ground gets very wet and muddy as it is now.
     
    12-12-2012, 02:35 AM
  #7
Green Broke
I recently went through an entire bottle of No Thrush over the course of about 7 weeks and saw no improvement. A couple weeks of putting Pete's Goo into the central sulci and they no longer seem bottomless I also applied ThrushBuster weekly through both products- mostly because I already had it. Since it didn't improve with the No Thrush + ThrushBuster, I feel pretty sure that the ThrushBuster wasn't helping a whole lot, either.

Pete's Goo is a 50/50 mixture of antifungal and antibiotic creams. Put it into a curved tip syringe and apply as deeply into the sulci as possible, daily.

I was thinking of trying adding some tea tree oil as well, but didn't get ahold of any in time. Next time!

That being said, I tried Pete's Goo in the past without seeing as good of results. I know "thrush" is kind of a catch-all term, so I'm wondering if some products work better than others on certain thrush infections and not so well on others, and that's why some products work so well sometimes and not so well othertimes. So it's always a bit of trial and error...
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    12-12-2012, 03:03 AM
  #8
Trained
http://www.thehorseshoof.com/pdf_art...rogSeries4.pdf

I found the article where I learned about Oxine. I wish I had taken pictures of my results. It's similar to the pics they have on their site.

Xeventer17, I think you're reading a bit too much into my statement. I don't know now my disagreeing about using bleach can be considered to be rude.
     
    12-12-2012, 03:03 AM
  #9
Yearling
Verona is correct. What works best dependson whats going on, the environment and the horses foot at hand.

One thing I ALWAYS recommend however is scrubbing the foot out daily with plain ol blue Dawn dish soap. It works easiest when you use a spray bottle full of plain water and mix a few teaspoons in to make it soapy water. Then just squirt the frog really well (after its been well picked clean of course), scrub with a brush and then spray again with the soapy water to rinse. Repeat till the water runs clear. No need to rinse the soap away either after your done.

Just as washing your hands kills germs and prevents colds etc, so does scrubbing the frog daily. This simple routine will prevent and heal many infections cheaply without harming new frog material on a simply deep sulcus. If its closed up however, I suggest using cotton balls to help medication in there, whatever kind you use.

Stay away from the green stuff and anything like it.
     
    12-12-2012, 03:36 AM
  #10
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by MyBoyPuck    
http://www.thehorseshoof.com/pdf_art...rogSeries4.pdf

I found the article where I learned about Oxine. I wish I had taken pictures of my results. It's similar to the pics they have on their site.

Xeventer17, I think you're reading a bit too much into my statement. I don't know now my disagreeing about using bleach can be considered to be rude.
It was simply the "Wanna bet?" statement in the beginning. Not generally a very kind or understanding thing to say. I don't want to argue though, I've read your posts elsewhere and enjoy them quite a bit. I just don't appreciate being talked down to.

Anyway, to the OP, all of the ideas given here seem as though they could be beneficial to you. I wish you luck!
     

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