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post #21 of 46 Old 02-12-2013, 05:30 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you again. I will post pics of the new trim when she is done. I am still waiting on a call from the new farrier. I will call him tonight if I still haven't heard back.

Should I try to remove the shoes myself?

Do you all think I should fire my trainer and my vet?

As for the farrier, do I just cancel my next appointment or actually fire him and explain why etc.?

I have the vet in this area that is active in the farrier certification training and such. I mean she is the farrier association supervising vet in this area for when they do their tests etc. Scary huh?

I really did everything I could to find a good one, but still failed miserable.

To have her feet done the new one mentioned doing wedges on the fronts and removing the rear shoes. Does this sound right?

He quoted me around $200+ to do this. He said she has hard feet to do but that he could help her and she would get some immediate relief. I guess farrier fees run different in different areas. Any amount of $ is worth her not being in pain.

Sorry, last question: The vet had me painting the underside of her hooves with betadine every night when it is raining. They seem to be getting dry. Should I discontinue that until her feet are done?

I hope he calls me back soon. I can't wait to get this all behind us.

Trinity: Does this diet sound okay to you? She was skinny when I got her but is far from that now.
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post #22 of 46 Old 02-12-2013, 05:46 PM Thread Starter
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this is when i first got her and now
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post #23 of 46 Old 02-12-2013, 07:03 PM
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Wedge pads will help any horse who has sore tendons/ligs from underrun is a great way to give those legs some relief while letting the heel have something solid under it to grow out correctly at the right alignment with the horse bearing weight on the hooves naturally. If she were mine, I'd try a heart bar 1 degree aluminum shoe on the front to see how she goes. It would give full support to the heels, weigh almost nothing and give her relief in deep flexors/suspensory ligs. I didn't get a good look at the rear hooves - and it would depend on how her previous tendon injuries were back there before I'd take a guess on what to do for the back ones. But if they were trimming them like the front, it would be no different until the heels could grow out.

Wedge pads are more work for you and your farrier and more expensive because of the extra material - if he wants to raise the heels, ask him if he can do a wedge shoe instead and leave the soles open to breathe and they'll stay cleaner. Ask your farrier about Kerckhaert aluminum wedge shoes - they are about $20 a pair so they aren't the cheapest but they have an extra toe insert to keep them from wearing out too fast and since you don't ride that much, they'd probably last as long as a normal setting of steel shoes. Here's a link if you want more info - I've used these myself.
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Betadine is used to dry out hooves - I'd be curious to know why your vet told you to do this? Betadine is harmless if used once in awhile, but can be a bit caustic if applied regularly on the same spot....what was their reason for it? Was it to dry out the hoof to kill of the thrush or draw out the abscess?
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post #24 of 46 Old 02-12-2013, 07:07 PM
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Just discontinue services with your current farrier. No need to fire him and give him a reason. Call him up, cancel and say you'll call him if you need him.

I would definitely go after the farrier that the new boarder brought in. If he's not "good", he's at least better than the one you have now and was able to spot your horse's poor farrier work.

Is the betadine for thrush? I tend to attack thrush pretty fast and furiously with peroxide. It can't be over used because it can also hurt the horse. But it clears out the bacteria and dries the hoof up within days if used properly.

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post #25 of 46 Old 02-12-2013, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by lightning View Post
Yeah, I am just sick about it. I mean really sick. I knew there was something wrong. But everyone kept saying that he was doing a good job and that it takes a long time to fix bad feet.
I am so mad at myself for not realizing there was a huge problem or at least not going with my gut. Everything I read seemed to me, that her feet were not done right. I knew her gait had changed. I can't even imagine what kind of damage has now been done, that will take forever to fix.

Don't beat yourself up over it; sounds like the other farrier is on track and ready to go. And, it may not take as long as you think to sort her feet out. The hardest thing is finding a farrier whose work you like, and it semms as though that part is okay. Good luck, and I, too, think your horse is lovely!
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post #26 of 46 Old 02-12-2013, 07:26 PM
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I wouldn't go quite so far as to fire your vet and trainer along with the farrier. Unfortunately, not all horse people are educated on the proper hoof alignment and trim. If they've never had access to something better, they may just not know that it can be better.

If you are satisfied with the vet and trainer in all other aspects, then I would stick with them for the time being.
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post #27 of 46 Old 02-12-2013, 07:49 PM
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Noone said fire them all. Just dont call the old farrier back and take everything the vet and trainer say about feet with a huge grain of salt. They dont know what they dont know.

I think the diet sounds ok from what I can tell. Im not familiar with the Adeptus supplements but the rest sounds decent if the Bermuda is good quality hay.

As for what to do next. I dont think it really matter too much what the new farrier does (within reason) so long as he GETS those HEELS back! All the way. It has to happen. If the new farrier doesnt recognize the folded up heels right away, IMO dont waste your time with them. Yes, the heels will be short because they have been left too long and are so folded under but it can be remedied temporarily with wedges and frog padding. Cut them down and back as far as necessary to get them to the widest part of the frog and wedge up as needed short term while this heel unfolds and grows out better. You shouldnt have to tell the farrier this. He should already know.

If/when wedges are added (dont let them make the wedges too tall. Only wedge enough to realign the bones properly!) , be sure that pour in padding or so forth is used so the frog is in contact with the ground. I like these nail on pads also. Frog Support Pads I dont think heart bars are necessary personally, Just a good frog pad or pour in or something. Dont allow this horse to hang between her shoe branches. The frog padding and wedge will realign the bony column and provide some much needed relief.

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post #28 of 46 Old 02-12-2013, 10:06 PM
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Holy cow!!! That first pic made me crindge! Those heels are so underrun, they stop where the toes should be. That farrier has no clue at all. Don't feel bad, I went through 8 before I finally found one that could trim worth a crap. The good ones are few and far between. Learn as much as you can about the hoof so you can keep a watchful eye and ask questions as you go. That horse will get instant relief once those heels are brought back and down. Good luck with your next farrier.

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post #29 of 46 Old 02-13-2013, 11:58 PM Thread Starter
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Done this morning. She is walking so much better. He said her feet are actually healthy. Shoes are off the back feet and she has to wear boots 24/7 for now so she doesn't get her front shoes off. He said that we may be able to get her barefoot eventually. That is the goal. She no longer drags her feet.
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post #30 of 46 Old 02-14-2013, 12:15 AM
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Oh thank goodness! Your horse will be one that has decent hooves at your barn! Feel proud! Thank the girl that stood up and said something! I hope Trinity is as happy as I am.
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