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  • Why is my horse's hoof wall separating from sole
  • Chunks of sole that came off on a horse

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    05-04-2012, 05:06 PM
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Trained
Need some input on wall at quarters

My trimmer is away on a family emergency, so I'm on my own for this one. As most of you know, my horse has one high/club foot and one low/flat tire foot. This question pertains to my horse's flat foot. I have made a bit of progress getting the heel tubules to grow down instead of forward, so it's starting to take a better shape overall. It was still very flat and a few trimmers recommended leaving the hoof wall a little higher rather than keeping it rapsed down to a mustang roll. I've been doing just that, and just this week, the old dead sole on both feet suddenly shed off in huge chunks revealing some very nice looking healthy sole underneath. In an instant, the flat foot became a concave one. I was thrilled for about 3 seconds and then saw a problem. The problem is, the sudden depth has conflicted with the higher hoof wall at the quarters. Now instead of a gentle blend fron the inner hoof wall to the sole, I have a nice separation crevace between the wall and sole. I'ts only about an inch, but it is compromising the integrity of the hoof in that area. I rasped it down as much as I could, but can not go any further since I'm near the sole level and a lip/separation is still present.

Here's my plan. Vettec superfast. Use it to fill in the crevace until a thicker tighter hoof wall can grow down to meet the new sole. Think that will work? Any other ideas?
     
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    05-04-2012, 11:05 PM
  #2
Yearling
Pictures?
     
    05-04-2012, 11:23 PM
  #3
Yearling
Good plan, I think it'll work. Just be sure to use a hair dryer or hot air gun to dry the area, then immediately apply the vettec. I've found that to be the most crucial part of the application. If you wait too long and moisture comes back, it won't bond as well
     
    05-05-2012, 08:07 AM
  #4
Trained
If there is already separation, there's a fair chance there's infection in there & I'd firstly be concerned about that when considering plugging it up. I'd probably just keep it short & rounded and treat for infection. *But this is speculation, based on what I think you're talking about.
     
    05-05-2012, 08:52 PM
  #5
Trained
Well, the concept was sound, but the application was a failure! I read the **** instructions several times over, cleaned to foot well, prepped the area to keep it clean, got it nice and warm with the dryer. Then for some bizarre reason, I could not get the dispenser to work. I tried all 3 heads in the package and while one of them looked like it would work, nothing came out. I tried taking the head off and mixing the two parts myself but made a nice mess instead of a nice foot. $30 poof and no built up hoof. Arrrggh!

Loosie, I think I'm okay as far as infection. I've been trying to build super frogs so have been soaking the foot in a vinegar/water solution several times a week. Also the stretching is very recent. The higher than normal walls were hanging in there very well until the sole shed two days ago. Then there was simply just too much lip at the wall and it pulled off a tad. I'll keep and eye on it.

I am happy to see from pics I took today that the heel is, in fact popping up. Not even sure you could call this underrun anymore. Heck, I might even have more foot there to trim than I think I do. I'm going to leave that to my trimmer when she comes back. Here's a few pics of the PITA trick foot.
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    05-05-2012, 11:14 PM
  #6
Yearling
Sounds like you had the same luck as I do with a grease gun
     
    05-05-2012, 11:23 PM
  #7
Trained
Wow, those pics show a great improvement on the last ones I saw! While straight-on sole shots make it difficult to tell, it appears the quarters are just a bit long & look like they need 'scooping' to bring them to the same length as heel & toe from the sole plane. Also looks like the bars may have been neglected & are folded over. I'd trim them a bit and also trim the flappy bits off the frogs.
     
    05-06-2012, 09:48 PM
  #8
Trained
Yeah, I know the bars are messed up, but I am far too new to this process to trim them myself. I really hope my trimmer is back in action this week. Those bars are driving me nuts. Besides being too long, they are also shedding along with the sole, so they are going all funhouse mirror on me. Just my luck, my horse's feet pic the week the trimmer is MIA to undergo radical transformation!

Loosie, you really think there's room to scoop the quarters? I feel like, if I trim them anymore, I'll practically be at the sole.
     
    05-06-2012, 09:57 PM
  #9
Trained
By the way, here's the other foot. It's also in dire need of bar work, but looks better than before and is growing like a weed. The frog actually makes contact with the ground now. Still a little shedding sole near the toe. Since he's a TB with the classic thin walls, I opted to not trim knock down that flare from the top and just keep rolling the toe from underneath as it grows. Seems to be paying off.

And AmazinCaucasian, I am sitting here peeling off excess superfast from my hands. Despite reading "not to come into contact with skin" I still managed to not wear gloves.
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    05-07-2012, 08:18 PM
  #10
Yearling
Yeah my apron probly has 2 pounds of vettec caked on it. If yer not careful you'll end up wearing it instead of applying it
     

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