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        05-07-2012, 09:31 PM
      #11
    Trained
    If your farrier's not going to be away more than a few weeks or so, I wouldn't stress too much about any of it.

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    Since he's a TB with the classic thin walls, I opted to not trim knock down that flare from the top and just keep rolling the toe from underneath as it grows. Seems to be paying off.
    Yeah, nothing to do with being TB IMO, but I wouldn't back up/thin walls to address flares too far up on any horse. I would address that toe a lot stronger though, to relieve the leverage working against it. While your pic isn't squarely side-on, you should get the idea of the blue line being approx where I'd trim, with the green line indicates about where the toe wall should be/will grow in if not under pressure. On the solar shot, the line shows about where I'd start a strong(about 45 degree) bevel.
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        05-08-2012, 08:54 PM
      #12
    Trained
    Well, trimmer came today and cleaned everything up. When she got done, we took him into the indoor and trotted him on the longe. He appeared dead lame. We took the horse 100 yards out to a grass field and he immediately picked up a fantastic forward trot and then burst into a canter that would knock your socks off. I then put his boots on and re-tried the indoor ring. It was better, but nothing like the grass. I got on him and he wasn't interested in moving around much at all. I am scratching my head. Sand is soft...grass is soft. What in the world am I missing? What is the difference between these two surfaces that creates such a varied response from my horse? He is completely sound on concrete and pavement, so I know hard surface is not the problem. Does the sand moving around down there really feel that weird to them? Not two weeks ago, I rode him in this same indoor arena and he was moving so well, he looked like he was putting on a clinic. I'm scratching my head big time here.

    He was a bit stiff in his hind legs today, so Lyme suspicions are starting to creep into this equation.
         
        05-08-2012, 09:52 PM
      #13
    Trained
    Is it deep sand? Think it could be related to that, stressing joints & such, rather than hoof prob? Circle work? How was he traveling straight in the indoor? Any particular foot?

    Other than that, sand will allow the foot to sink in more than grass generally does, putting more pressure on soles & frogs. Generally it's a good thing & conforms well enough that most horses are fine on it. But if your horse is extra sensitive - any chance of a recent/current laminitis? Sole bruising? - it can be too much still. I'd boot him with soft, thin pads & see how he goes.
         
        05-08-2012, 10:16 PM
      #14
    Trained
    The sand is not deep at all. If anything, it's only about 2" with a hard base underneath. More concussion than sinking in.

    He is definitely better on a larger circle. He has to work harder to balance himself on smaller circles. He did this briefly after his last trim. I think because we are still gradually changing his balance, he has to re-find his center of gravity each time. Trimmer seemed to think left hind was the problem while I saw right front. In the trot, they are directly related, so who knows which is right.

    No clue on if I'm dealing with underlying laminitis issues. Other than some white line stretching, nothing looks obvious to me.
         
        05-08-2012, 10:18 PM
      #15
    Trained
    If I don't make a complete mess as I did with the superfast, I'm going to put sole guard on his feet next time I go up there. Going to wear gloves this time.

    He did just shed his soles on all 4, so maybe that's contributing to the problem?
         
        05-09-2012, 01:15 AM
      #16
    Yearling
    Yeah Im going to say that he may not be used to the extra firm sole pressure that the sand presents yet after shedding his soles. Even shallow sand will give alot of sole and frog pressure at work.....much more than grass and soft ground will. Id bet they are quite thin. Id give it some time and stick to the grass a couple days. He's doing alot of big changes right now. Sole guard is a great idea imo.
         

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