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post #11 of 22 Old 06-07-2014, 08:33 PM Thread Starter
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These photos really show how out of control those bars/heels are. Your false sole is starting to resolve but the bars are still pooling and tall. Is there anyone around you who could give this horse a trim that might at least get everything all cleaned up for you and the bars in hand so you can take over? Have you looked at ELPO farriers? She really needs a good and proper trim by knowledgeable eyes and skilled hands on those bars IMO.
Trinity, I sure have looked into ELPO trimmers. I would love to have someone out, and might still resort to "anybody" at this time. ETA: had a suggestion of a dremel tool for those bars, which intrigues me. I have my doubts of her tolerance of such shenanigans, but I am pretty sure we are going to give it a go and see how she feels about it.

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You don't really have a lot of false sole in there.The "depth" you are seeing at the frog apex is just grossly overgrown BARS that have grown so tall and forward that they have nearly connected at the frog apex. Its like a narrow V shaped 'ring' of bar all the way around the frog.
The sole itself is not all that overgrown but may give the appearance of that because of some hoof wall separation at the edges of the sole creating an abnormal deep crevice there. So basically the heels and bars need to be cut down, a lot. Those heels are nearly an inch too long at the back. Do you have nippers?
Patty, I do indeed have nippers. Not good ones, that is apparent without even having owned any other pair. I can NOT for the life of me make a grab on those bars with them, however. I am sure it is a matter of learning the application, so maybe someday. Bleh. And yeah, I know those hels are high. but I am having a hard time reconciling bring them down with obeying the sole. Fro the back I can clearly see an inch of extra height (although she did she shed most of her frog tissue, I am actively treating for thrush) so I feel it may be deceiving. The bars are more like a half-inch at the most above the sole. But also laid over.

And yes, some of that is overgrown bar. It was super-pronounced a couple weeks ago when all I did is pare that down. but it is also true that some of that is sole, too. In the hinds it crumbles right out (when soft, anyway,) very much the texture of sole vs. bar.

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How far are you from the Indiana border? I may know a few farriers who would be willing to help out.
I am trying not to get too excited. I am 35 minutes north and slightly west of South Bend. 20 minutes from Michigan City.

Thank you all so much, you have taken the time to chime in, here. I am a much better maintain-er than fix-er, so if i could find someone recommended or trusted (or both!) to help us with a trim or two to get us back on track that would be amazing. Your help is very much appreciated.

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post #12 of 22 Old 06-07-2014, 08:42 PM
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Ah! I was just in Niles today buying feed. I know of about four farriers around here I would personally recommend. And more I haven't heard anything one way or the other about. Let me get their business cards and I'll PM you contact info. Never hurts to try!
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You are limiting your search by not considering a good farrier. The barefoot community has promoted the "natural" trim as tho a farrier is unable to do a barefoot trim. A good farrier understands angles as he has studied the entire leg, not just how to use nippers and a rasp. Too many trimmers are weekend wonders with little to no knowledge of anything else.
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Ah! I was just in Niles today buying feed. I know of about four farriers around here I would personally recommend. And more I haven't heard anything one way or the other about. Let me get their business cards and I'll PM you contact info. Never hurts to try!
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Ah! No way! I get my feed in Niles, small world! I love to meet board buddies, maybe lunch or coffee some day! Any info you want to throw my way is very much appreciated.

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You are limiting your search by not considering a good farrier. The barefoot community has promoted the "natural" trim as tho a farrier is unable to do a barefoot trim. A good farrier understands angles as he has studied the entire leg, not just how to use nippers and a rasp. Too many trimmers are weekend wonders with little to no knowledge of anything else.
I am sure you are right, Saddlebag. Unfortunately, "conventional" farriery has played a significant part in why she is where she is now. On the other hand "conventional" farriers have also been a real boon to us in the past.

I know the debate has been hashed to death, no way any horse forum in this country has escaped the discussion. But there are certain philosophies and applications associated with qualified "barefoot" trimmers that are important to her getting her best feet back under her. I have heard too many atrocious things from farriers out of horseshoeing school to be comfortable looking first in that direction. I do not really have a bias, per se, more of a...preference....
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Is this guy anywhere near you? He is a certified ELPO farrier, certified in both barefoot trims or shoes. (this is his listed businessphone number)
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Is this guy anywhere near you? He is a certified ELPO farrier, certified in both barefoot trims or shoes. (this is his listed businessphone number)
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That is about an hour and a half from me. IME that could go fine or not at all! I know trimmers/farriers that travel pretty solid distances. My personal philosophy is that it never hurts to ask! Thanks! Surely I searched for IN farriers, but I really don't remember doing so...it has been a crazy few months. I should do it again, just in case.
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I think id try to get a farrier out to get those back in hand. Worst case, you can touch up any issues so long as they trim those bars and heels back where they need to be. If the ELPO guys comes as far as you, great!

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Thanks, Trin! I am going to call him for sure, plus Lemon Zeus hooked me up with some names, too! Tuesday is finally going to get to wear that casting material you sent. Not that I am happy about why, of course. Shocking how fast feet can go south in a few short months with the wrong trim. She was looking so good by last fall! :0(
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Don't feel sorry for yourself. You are both training your horse to be good with his feet AND training yourself a VERY useful horse owning skill!! Time for celebration!!
Take this one step further and learn how to be your horse's substitute farrier. Be REALLY careful if you try shoeing, though--those nails are wicked sharp!!! =b

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It sounds like you are on the way to getting things taken care of. Just thought I'd give you this web site for my trimmer. He's nowhere near you but has a lot of good info.

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