Originally Posted by Patty Stiller
achieving high angles as NOT OK. What is really going on INSIDE the foot is NOT accurately reflected by trying to see external toe angles in a distorted toe like these. And laving high heels is unhealthy or the foot. The BONE angles are higher than the subtly distorted outside of the toe indicates. He needs to bring them back to get better health and function in the INTERNAL structures inside the foot. If he lowered the heels to where they belong AND backed up the toe to where it belonged the functional angle of the hoof would not be any lower than it is now. The current TRUE internal angle is being masked by an optical illusion of the distorted toe at the moment. They are not that nice internally. Where it is important.
I don't think angles should be too high. I believe that a hoof should be trimmed based on Live sole , each foot as an individual. I meant by "high angles" as appropriate ones, meaning not LT/LH. If an angle is too high, it is not following live sole. I've noticed in the pictures that some look like too high angle and some look like too low. Which leads me to believe that it may be a part of camera distortion.
The coffin bone has an angle that it needs and live sole mimics that angle, plus adding a few degrees higher on a heel to allow for ground contact on impaction. What I meant by gauge angles is that most horse are 50 degrees or above, but following live sole with a few degrees more is the Utmost guide.
If the hoof is truly at too high an angle, then yes, there's room to bring that heel back. But , I still would not back up that toe. Looks to me that it has been backed up appropriately at that point in time.
I don't find you or anyone else wanting or believing anything different than me. My guide is live sole. It doesn't sound like you or anyone else or me wants to end up with a negative palmer, flares, or a run forward toe or heel. The difference may be in priority or wording, but it's certainly not a difference in what a healthy hoof is.