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        04-26-2013, 06:01 PM
      #41
    Yearling
    If you are really wet, iodine works well.
         
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        04-26-2013, 07:31 PM
      #42
    Banned
    I put the 50/50 back in because in one day it did wonders! I'll post pics when I get home.

    Also had her old owner than had her for two years that I didn't come by and she noticed how stiff her back is as well.

    And I'm 25.
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        04-27-2013, 11:03 AM
      #43
    Banned
    Exclamation Updated Pics: one day after treatment

    Here are some pics of her feet one day after treatment. Also farrier is coming friday to take a look and trim as necessary.
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        04-27-2013, 01:23 PM
      #44
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PaintMommy87    
    Vet said not lame, just sore from a bad trim job. Also my BO says I'm overreacting and to just flush her feet with iodine. Also says her frog is fine just underused due to prev owner not keeping up on trims and bad trim job by this farrier. Regular farrier coming in a couple of weeks.

    Also got yelled at for putting antibacterial ointment on feet since she says it will cause moisture to be retained in there.

    feel like I don't know what do to.
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    Hmmm...sounds like you need to ignore your BO, those frogs are not "just fine". And I'm not so sure I'd trust your vet either. The trim is bad, true, but those frogs, first and foremost, have deep, painful thrush...period.

    Go to this site: Bare Foot Horse

    Read, educate yourself, talk to your farrier, get your hands on a rasp and get that poor girl's feet healthy.
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        04-28-2013, 12:02 AM
      #45
    Banned
    I'm leaving on a business trip tomorrow for four days... Picked up some tomorrow today and gave first dose. Explained to my BO that she's my horse and that I expect her to follow my treatment plan with her. So my trustwillbe tested when I return... Hopefully all goes well!
         
        04-28-2013, 12:10 AM
      #46
    Started
    Wishing you luck.
         
        04-28-2013, 10:37 AM
      #47
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PaintMommy87    
    I'm leaving on a business trip tomorrow for four days... Picked up some tomorrow today and gave first dose. Explained to my BO that she's my horse and that I expect her to follow my treatment plan with her. So my trustwillbe tested when I return... Hopefully all goes well!
    Good for you. Hopefully she will follow your plan.
         
        04-28-2013, 06:40 PM
      #48
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by poppy1356    
    I think any of the dish detergent will work. Dawn is just the most popular and the gentlest. You don't want any with that bleach alternative stuff.
    Detergent is a stronger cleaner than using soap or such, but it makes the hoof/skin permeable so it absorbs more of... whatever. I would be careful not to get it on the external wall because of this, as that's meant to be impermeable & think it depends on conditions & what else you're putting on the hooves as to whether you want the frog/sole more permeable.
         
        04-28-2013, 07:42 PM
      #49
    Trained
    Hiya, Your BO yelled at you for treating your horse for something?? Sounds like a nice, reasonable sort!

    Firstly if you want a critique on the hooves, you need to post some good hoof pic(I know that's a bit easier said than done sometimes). They need to be clean for a start. I noticed someone already posted a link for good hoof pics, same link as in my signature below. Some different angles would be helpful, as explained on that page. Is the side to side imbalance in the heels of one foot pictured a very long term thing or only happened recently since the horse has been at the negligent home? Also especially if you're not positive it's her feet that is the prob, whole horses shots, from directly in front, beside & behind may tell us something.

    Palpating the hoof & telling what you get is also helpful. Is the sole around the toe at all yielding under strong thumb pressure? If you squeeze the digital cushion - thumb in the 'dent' above heel as far forward as poss, fingers on the frog, how thick/firm is it? If you push your thumb into the back of the frog between the bulbs do you get a big reaction?

    There are definitely some issues there, but her feet don't look too terrible really. As you've said the horse was neglected & this is after the first trim in some time, I won't comment on the farriery. The hooves obviously have long, underrun heels, obvious imbalances, but without even seeing before pix, no one can reasonably say he didn't do the best job that was possible at the time with those feet. To 'correct' the issues, I would be getting the horse trimmed little & often - perhaps even fortnightly for a few trims at least - until you get her feet in better form.

    What are you feeding her? How much? How often? You said 'grain' but that's not telling much. Generally speaking, free choice grass/grass hay is best and if more than that is necessary for maintenance, grain, due to high starch content & indigestibility is not IMO the best option. There are other healthier alternatives, beet pulp for eg, but if you do decide grain is appropriate in your situation, oats are about the best choice, *relatively* low in starch & unlike other grain, reasonably digestible in the foregut when whole. Other grain should be well processed/cooked before feeding & fed very sparingly & in many small meals daily. If you can't feed little & often, I'd be definitely striving for a healthier alternative. I would also avoid any sweet feed - just like ourselves, eating 'junk food' regularly may stack on the weight, but isn't healthy. But free choice hay/grazing & a good nutritional supp is all most horses need to be healthy.

    What sort of environment is the horse in? Is it dry footing? If not, I appreciate it may be difficult/impossible where you are, but I'd move her onto dry footing if at all possible, or at least provide somewhere her feet can dry out daily for some time. Free movement is also important, so don't lock her up at all if you can avoid it.

    What did the vet say about the lameness? What did they advise? I'm not clear on that.
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        04-29-2013, 01:00 PM
      #50
    Banned
    She is in a completely dry paddock with 24 hour turnout as she desires, with a round bale. She gets fed some type of grain type feed twice a day, one scoop each time, though I'm not sure what kind. Country Acres maybe? It's in a purple bag. She was underweight when I got her back, but has been putting the pounds on nicely. I can still see her ribs but they're not protruding anymore.

    When I touch her feet, she is sensitive on her hooves around the middle and a bit towards the frog, and around the edge where her white line is is also sore in a few spots. She also has soft hooves, so gravel makes indents in them which also hurts. I'm looking into shoes and pads once the thrush is under control. When I touch the back end of the frog she doesn't really flinch, even when I'm cleaning it out, and for the most part it's firm everywhere I touch. I did a good scrub on Saturday and felt all the around the hoof for soreness. Front and back. Also noticed the beginning of some thrush in the back frogs too so I did put medicine on all four feet.

    I didn't notice the imbalance before so it has to be recent.

    I will post pics when I return from my business trip.

    Also let me know if there is any other information you need.
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