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    03-18-2012, 05:57 PM
Opinions on Her Feet?

Hi there,
It would be great if I could get some opinions on my mare's feet. If you would like to see before pictures, use the link below:

Opinions on her Feet?
The first set of pictures is from late December 2011
The second set of pictures (page 2 of the linked thread) is from early January.

I took these pictures today (below.)

Right front, old frog came off, this is the new frog.

Right front heel, the old frog just came off, this is the new frog coming in

Left front

Left front heel

Right hind

Right hind heel

Left hind

Left hind heel

Left side of front

Right side front

Front view of front feet

Right side hind

Left side hind

Front view of hind

Thank you.
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    03-18-2012, 06:17 PM
Is your horse normally crooked in the front feet? Did you just trim these feet or have they worn this way?
    03-18-2012, 07:03 PM
Oh sorry, yes, ever since I got her she has had pigeon-toed feet, her hind feet have faults as well. I forgot to add that. I trimmed her hind feet today and her front yesterday.
    03-18-2012, 07:24 PM
Neither front foot is trimmed evenly at the heel. That contributes to the way the horse stands and travels. I'd fix that today. The hinds don't look as bad.
    03-18-2012, 07:47 PM
Will do, thank you.
    03-18-2012, 08:26 PM
Green Broke
When I first started trimming I got a piece of advice that I took to heart and I will pass it along to you in case your horse has sensitive feet. She might be a lot happier if you didn't par out her sole. I used to do that too- something about avoiding sole pressure. Then I learned that the sole is there to protect the inner structures and a horse's sole is not very thick at all! So any live sole you take off is actually making her feet more prone to abcesses, bruising or worse. That sole actually protects the coffin bone and that is something you want to protect.

Over the years I have really come to the conclusion that when trimming, less is more.

Anyway, maybe she has tough feet and it isn't an issue. But if it is, try leaving her sole alone. I've gotten so I never remove sole unless it is flaking out on it's own. Then I might help it along. But I never trim up the sole otherwise.

And although you don't want to purposely leave the heels uneven, I also respect the natural crookedness of the horse and don't try to "fix" conformation issues. You want the foot to land flat even if that means she looks pigeon toed in front or toed out behind. I find most horses are crooked in various ways and I've talked to my vet about it and he really believes you should not try to fix conformation flaws on an adult horse. You can cause the arthritis and lameness issues you are trying to avoid.

Anyhow, that is just some advice. Not sure if everyone agrees with it.
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    03-18-2012, 08:39 PM
I agree with trailhorserider with one caveat, if the horse is SHOD you shouldn't necessarily force a foot flat but when you are starting out trimming and lack the skill to make the foot how it should be then I'd make it flat if the horse is left unshod. My reasoning behind that is the hoof will wear the way it should be in a few days if left unshod but if the horse is shod it is locked into that angle for the next 6-8 weeks.
    03-19-2012, 12:04 AM
Looks like a serviceable trim.

Nice, tidy work.

    03-19-2012, 02:47 AM

Yeah, looks reasonable again.

Looks like you pared into live sole on the right fore & left hind which is not a good move IMO, especially as it seems the front soles are rather too thin/flat anyway. Agree with Trail horse that generally speaking, unless you *know* you have a very good reason, it is a good move to avoid taking any sole at all that is not already about to come off. Agree that while it shouldn't be the case, horse's soles are indeed often way too thin. Healthy feet can have soles thick or thicker than the walls tho, as the capsule, inc sole & frog is the 'armour plating' of the horse's foot.

I don't believe it's a reasonable assumption that Mother Nature/God/evolution.... (substitute whoever you believe in) stuffed up so badly as to build an animal with the base of the foot too weak to be useful. I think wild(healthy hoofed) equids & other ungulates bear out that theory too.

Walls at quarters on hinds & poss also on fores are too long. Can't really tell from those angles but looks like walls all round & toes particularly need stronger rolling.

Front heels *may* be too high, but depends on horse's comfort & terrain IMO. Back heels may be bit long & underslung but can't really tell from those angles. Shots of feet on the ground don't tell much because they need to be taken squarely & from near ground level to be most accurate.

Have you found a good farrier/trimmer who can oversee/advise you on the work? I find there are virtually no hard & fast rules in this game, just guidelines, so you need to understand why things are done or not, to know when they should or not, how much, etc, etc.
    03-19-2012, 11:25 AM
This was all very helpful information, I really appreciate it. And loosie, I will actually be having a professional trimmer come out to check her feet out as soon as the weather gets better.

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