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    03-26-2012, 06:08 PM
Opinions on new horse's feet

I just got a new horse, Garzo, last weekend, and I'm not entirely thrilled with his feet. I know they need some work, and I know what I think is wrong with them, but would appreciate some additional opinions. I'll definitely be asking my farrier, as well, but he's on vacation for the next couple of weeks. I'm only going to put pictures of one front and one hind on here, but you can see all the photos here if you want: Garzo's feet

This is his front left foot:

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    03-26-2012, 06:10 PM
And his rear left foot:

    03-26-2012, 06:30 PM
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I know nearly nothing about hooves but he has almost no heel which scares me, and his toes are extremely long. The rear left is the scarriest, because he's practically walking on the coronet of his hoof. It definitely can't be comfortable.

If I were you, I'd look into getting someone out there much earlier than in a few weeks. There's a good chance that he's going to chip or crack, or even injure the bone and go lame at this point. And I definitely wouldn't ride him.
    03-27-2012, 12:32 AM
Well, I am no expert either, but I don't see a dangerousely low heal, but the sole does kind of appear pretty flat. On the positive side, for as long as his toe is there doesn't seem to be any flaring. There is a stress ring of some sort growing out which at first glance makes it look like flaring. The frog in the last two shots looks kind of "tight", but a good cleaning and taking all that dead stuff off might drastically change the way it appears.
Maybe an expert will respond.
Good luck!
    03-27-2012, 12:40 AM
The toe is waaay too long and he almost has no heel. I'd day get a farrier out ASAP! It cannot be comfortable whatsoever, and defintely don't ride him until you've had a farrier out & he/she says the horse is okay to ride.
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    03-27-2012, 01:02 AM
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I agreeee that the toe is way too long. I think that possibly the heels are getting a little smooshed but I think that's probably nothing a good trim couldn't fix.

I see you're in Portland, do you need a recommendation for a really great trimmer?
I adore my trimmer (because of her, my mare is happily galloping on GRAVEL!) and we're only about $30 minutes from you. :)
    03-27-2012, 01:17 AM
Originally Posted by Endiku    
I know nearly nothing about hooves but he has almost no heel which scares me,
Glad you qualified that with your first comment because it looks to me like he has reasonably long heels actually, but they're underrun/crushed forward. It's unclear to me whether there is excess deal sole at the heels, which *could* allow the heels to be taken back a little further at this time, but relieving the run forward toes will allow his heels to become more upright.

It may well be, if the soles are as shallow as they look, that all that bulging stuff is closer to the thickness that should be there, so it is probably not a good idea to remove any of it, but rather pad his feet to protect the rest that is too thin. Likewise, while ultimately the heels may need to be lowered, looks like his frogs are weak & forcing the issue may put him more on his toes, so leaving them longer but padding to support his frogs & treating thrush, to allow him to use them comfortably is probably more important at this time.

I imagine, by the quite obvious ridges & bulges around the fores, large degree of forward flaring & shallow/flat looking soles that there could well have been some major metabolic probs in his recent past, not solely bad mechanics. Looks like someone's made a start on trying to correct the mechanics & a good 'roll' has been done. I just think it looks like it needs to be a lot stronger at the toe & the pic I drew on shows approx how much the toe is flared/where the wall would be if healthy, angle of the heel if not underrun, and the green line shows approx where I'd start a bevel, both on the side shot & the sole. Looks on the side shot like it can be backed a lot more, but then on the sole shot seems not so much. I'd bevel to the sole at the toe, but NOT into it. This can sometimes be tricky, as lamellar wedge can look just like sole.
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    03-27-2012, 01:27 AM
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Luckily, we have some farriers who frequent this forum. Hopefully one will read and chime in. I see LONG toes and no heel. I would bet that these can be corrected, though, with good trimming.
    03-27-2012, 02:29 AM
Originally Posted by Allison Finch    
I see LONG toes and no heel.
I just don't get the 'no heel' idea. Even with them being underrun it looks as though the frog is not on the ground on level ground. While that is not necessarily a problem IMO(it depends), it should at least be close. If those crushed heels were standing more upright, the heels would indeed be high. The line to show heel height on the pic is (conservatively) the same length as the heel currently is. Pic rotated to make heel & toe level, to show heel height/hairline angle if heels were kept that high.
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    03-27-2012, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by loosie    
Glad you qualified that with your first comment because it looks to me like he has reasonably long heels actually, but they're underrun/crushed forward
My appologies. It really does appear as if he has no heel, but on a second glance I see that you're right, they're a good length but very 'underrun' as you say. It definitely does not look like a normal hoof though, that's for sure!

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