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        07-09-2013, 02:39 PM
    Originally Posted by ahoover0729    
    If it was up to me I'd keep trying. But I wasn't the owner and she wouldn't listen to anyone but the vet.
    Why would you have kept trying? The horse wasn't going to get better, and I'm sure the owner did everything she could before she finally gave up the fight.

    Animals do not fear death, but living in constant unremitting pain and being unable to move was torture for the mare, and I'm sure her last days were not pleasant.

    As an owner I will always listen to the vet over anyone else, especially when it comes to end of life decisions.
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        07-09-2013, 11:24 PM
    I am sorry for the poor dear horse, the owner and yourself. Very sad. That sort of decision is one no one ever wants to face. My family and relations - even my husband - have always thought I am too picky w my horse's diets, but then none has ever foundered. I know from watching experiences of family and others, it usually isn't from lack of care or love especially where grass pasture is the culprit - and b/c it is preventable and the cause seems obvious after the fact - it can make the an owner's heart doubly heavy.
        07-10-2013, 06:25 PM
    Ever since that day what happened to her. Anytime another horse is acting funny or looks off. We panic cause we don't want to repeat that day. Like the other day. We brought a horse in from being out all night. And he acted like he had a broken leg. He kept stumbling and would refuse to walk our hearts sank. We immediately called the owner then vet and farrier. The farrier just put shoes on him. Here what happened is somehow how front left show had twisted and the end of the shoe was digging into his foot. Idk how it happened. Farrier came took the shoe off with the vet there. We immediately had to put padding and a hoof antibiotic so the hole on the sole of his hoof could heel and he was in a few days. But once that happened we immediately thought back to when we lost her. We prayed it wasn't. He's doing better now his hoof is heeling. But the thought oh no it's happening again will never leave our minds. Now we're trying to decide how to limit grazing time for all the horses. We have muzzles but not enough for 17 horses. They are on a in during the day and out at night schedule now. They all get hosed down midway through the day to keep the flies that had followed them into the barn or if they look warm. Any ideas on how to keep them more comfortable while in during the day. We have fans in all the stalls and each stall as a exhaust system to draw out humidity from the stalls.
        07-10-2013, 07:21 PM
    Green Broke
    Sorry to hear about the poor mare. At least she is no longer suffering. To be successful you have to catch founder/laminitis early , usually by the time they are lame or sore to walk its a
    Downhill battle. The owner made the right decision .
        07-11-2013, 11:33 AM
    Ahoover, you should read about the signs of founder and the kinds of things you and the BM can do to prevent it rather than panicking about everything. It'll be more productive, although I understand the sentiment.
        07-12-2013, 08:49 PM
    The paranoia is normal after the loss of a horse. It will fade in time altho we will always be more alert to any situation.
        07-13-2013, 11:24 PM
    I am sorry to hijack, but will anyway. With a fat horse with ulcers that is only on grass (Bermuda) what do you do? Restrict the food and flare up the ulcers or let her eat and get fatter? Or is it time for blood work for metabolic issues?
        07-13-2013, 11:51 PM
    Grazing muzzle? Gotta slow them down but keep them eating liittle and often.
        07-14-2013, 10:45 AM
    Grazing muzzle or slow feeder or small hole hay net, maybe? If your vet compounds, you might put the horse on omeprazole. If it's compounded, it doesn't have to be too expensive. I have also heard that alfalfa helps with ulcers, but it's pretty high calorie.

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