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post #31 of 47 Old 01-25-2014, 07:24 PM
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I didnt say use a large amount of conditioner you need to use it within reason maybe some of you don't have the experience using it as much as others like myself have and you don't fully understand the proper way to use it. It is very beneficial especially in extreme cases like this to use and get this horses feet back in shape....ive been using conditioners and oils on horses feet for over 30 years and havent once had any type of infection set in because of it that's just ridiculous....so if you have it really just tells me that you didnt know what you were doing and were in over your head from the get-go....

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post #32 of 47 Old 01-25-2014, 08:20 PM
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Here's the name and the link to the conditioner I use on the 17 horses I have here at the house. Please do consider it because like I said earlier its an excellent way to help her get her feet back in shape!! Hooflex Therapeutic Conditioner Ointment. Whatever you decide good luck!

Hooflex® Therapeutic Conditioner Ointment | Hoof Treatment | Absorbine

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i didnt say use a large amount of conditioner you need to use it within reason maybe some of you don't have the experience using it as much as others like myself have and you don't fully understand the proper way to use it. It is very beneficial especially in extreme cases like this to use and get this horses feet back in shape....ive been using conditioners and oils on horses feet for over 30 years and havent once had any type of infection set in because of it that's just ridiculous....so if you have it really just tells me that you didnt know what you were doing and were in over your head from the get-go....
The point is that with cracks so severe there are obviously bacteria in there and you would be sealing them in.

No one is saying the conditioner itself causes infection.
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post #34 of 47 Old 01-25-2014, 08:22 PM
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I don't think this is a "problem horse"..
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post #35 of 47 Old 01-25-2014, 08:27 PM
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The point is that with cracks so severe there are obviously bacteria in there and you would be sealing them in.

No one is saying the conditioner itself causes infection.

I've had horses that when they came to me their feet were just as bad. The conditioner is a tool to use to get the feet back in shape. I have never had a horse get any type of infection while using conditioners. If someone is having those issues they just flat out don't know what they're doing. I'm not trying to come across as gruff either there is just a lot of people out looking for useful info on issues like this and for someone to advise someone not to consider using 'Hoof Goop' it just tells me that the person is cutting off a useful avenue and tool that someone could use that would be beneficial to their situation.

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post #36 of 47 Old 01-25-2014, 08:29 PM
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I don't think this is a "problem horse"..

I don't think so either

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post #37 of 47 Old 01-26-2014, 05:45 AM
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...havent once had any type of infection set in because of it that's just ridiculous....so if you have it really just tells me that you didnt know what you were doing and were in over your head from the get-go....
I think a key here is the first bit I quoted above. If there is no infection present and/or the environmental factors are good, then yeah, probably no real harm. Just that with already sick feet &/or unhealthy environment - most live in the real world - I beg to differ strongly, think it does encourage *further* infection. As for your 'in over your head' comment, don't forget OP is an owner, not a farrier or such, so of course she's 'in over her head' in a way, or she wouldn't have posted.

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it just tells me that the person is cutting off a useful avenue and tool that someone could use that would be beneficial to their situation.
I didn't say I hadn't used it. Thought it was important once upon a time. I don't recall a time that I ever thought it improved anything aside from looks though. Then I started learning more about it & started to feel that people that use it for supposed hoof health have been suckered by the advertising... IOW it 'tells' me people are wasting their time & money on a useless 'avenue' that can IME, also contribute to the success of anaerobic bugs in the hoof capsule.

Stuff that you paint onto the outside of a largely impervious dead layer of keratin(like your fingernails) cannot improve the health of that skin, to my knowledge. Of course, if you have evidence to the contrary, worth considering... So I don't see anything to the claims of improving health.

At any rate, what is really needed to grow good hooves comes from the inside - nutrition. Provide the correct 'ingredients' from inside because IMO what's a bit ridiculous is to try pasting the missing ones on later.

Of course, as said, if there was evidence to the contrary... & of course this is also only my opinion & experience. As with everything, don't take my - or whoever's - word for anything blindly, but do you own homework & make more informed decisions. One place to start is; Hoof Dressings: What Studies Show | TheHorse.com
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post #38 of 47 Old 01-26-2014, 09:56 AM
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Conditioners do not do anything to get feet in shape. There is nothing wrong with dry hard feet. Dry hard dry feet are strong feet. Cracks are due to mechanical stresses from improper hoof form. The cure is removing those stresses. (proper trimming) .
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post #39 of 47 Old 01-26-2014, 09:07 PM Thread Starter
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I do have the farrier coming out this week. This horse has never been lame as far as I know or my friend that had her. She does have a bad habit of biting but you have to watch her ears she pins them before she bites. She is head mare in my little herd. Here is a body pic of her she is a very flashy horse.
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post #40 of 47 Old 01-26-2014, 09:09 PM
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LOVE her face marking. She will be stunning once you get her conditioned.
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