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Preventing Ice Ball build up on shod hooves

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  • Best method of preventing iceballs under a shoed horses hooves
  • How to prevent snow from building up in horses hoofs

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    12-21-2012, 04:49 PM
  #11
Banned
Well 40 years experience doesnt mean he's any good. Lets see my current farrier has at least 35 years experience. And from the looks of my horses feet under run heels,flares and lamness issues. Ho yeah but he's got 35 years experience so what he does must be good HUH. Iam soooo **** tiered of paying for crap trim jobs and a farrier that just blows me off if I point something out that's wrong. Or justifies it away why my horses heels look like they do. But he's got 35 years of experience iam sorry a monkey could trim my horses better. So I don't care what your farrier says doesnt mean he's right. Iam going to learn to trim my own horses come hell or high water. Current farrier is NOT coming back on my property. So if your farrier is sooo wonderfull why would he be letting your horse have ice balls and possibly slip and do serious injury to himself.Oh that right he's got years of experience so he must be good. Yeap been there done that and iam done with my current farrier.
     
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    12-21-2012, 04:59 PM
  #12
Yearling
What you can do without getting anything for your horse is spray Pam on the hooves. It will prevent snow from sticking, and therefore, ice from balling up.
     
    12-21-2012, 10:26 PM
  #13
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Jetson    
My horse is having some corrective shoeing done.
How is he/she shod and why?
     
    12-21-2012, 10:59 PM
  #14
Trained
All I have to add to this thread is that I am glad that I live in Georgia.
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    01-02-2013, 01:14 PM
  #15
Foal
Thanks for all the responses. I figured I would update just in case someone else comes searching for answers and the answer is.....rim pads!!! As I mentioned, I have applied snow pads to a horse over 10 years ago and honestly thought that was the only option - the full pad. I called my farrier after one week of fighting ice balls, I tried vaseline and venice terpentine neither worked. Pam actually didnt work too bad but who knows what a few months of it might do to a horses foot. So the farrier came over with 2 options, a full pad or a rim pad I had no idea there was an open pad for snow. He came 2 days after I called him. We opted for the rim pad as we have a concern about my horses very thin soles (xray confirmed) and sensitive soles. We didnt want to have to use any packing as we wanted the soles to be exposed to stay as hard as possible. I did research the rim pad and seems as with many things, 50% of the horse people love them and 50% hate them. They are working out really well for my horse. I have seen them build up a few times but I have also watched the snow pop right out as he walked in the barn. But other than those few times they are working correctly. So success!!! For those who said kick the farrier out of the barn, well there are a few things I would kick a farrier out of my barn for but certainly not for "trying" to help my horse. Please understand I am looking to this farrier for more knowledge than I have and between the two of us, we are working together to try to make my horse comfortable. I as the horse owner agreed to what he was doing. The horse has had issues for a few years. It started with arthritis in his hocks which caused unbelievable imbalances in his hind feet so I managed to keep up on his hinds and also consulted with a few farriers and vets throughout those painful years. Now the horse has developed some crazy way to walk and is crushing his heels and driving them forward on the fronts. He has been painfree (I think because he sure can't tell me) from the arthritis for about 6 months. Im not pro barefoot or pro shod, Im pro horse. My horses have been bare for about 6 or 7 years now and I love having them bare and I love being able to maintain them myself. But when I see that my horse is uncomfortable I will do what ever it takes to make him comfortable. I will continue to work with this farrier and hopefully he can get his fronts back to where they should be. In my opinion the best farrier is one that will discuss things with the owner and listen to what the owner has to say and work together to make a plan. We both made an error when not opting for snow pads but I had no idea there was a rim pad option. I don't much care for some of the old time farriers that if you say a word they jump down your throat about "dont tell me how to do my job". I like the farrier Im using, he is young, he has some experience, he has some knowledge and he is extremely tollerant of my horse fidgeting every now and again. Both my horse and I like him and he is willing to work with us I couldnt ask for anything more.
     
    01-02-2013, 01:57 PM
  #16
mls
Trained
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Originally Posted by GotaDunQH    
I've seen horses slip and slide with ice balls in their shoes and it is scary; great way to get injured. It's certainly not something I take a chance on with my horse.
A horse can slip anytime on any footing.

We've had shoes on our horses 365 - snow or no snow - no pads - without any issues. I trail ride in the snow too.

It's a matter of personal and $ preference to add the pads. Nothing works to keep the snow from building. Some horses can build them quickly and some hardly at all. My suggestion is a rubber mallet to tap out the snow when it builds up.
     
    01-02-2013, 02:29 PM
  #17
Banned
Cooking spray works like a dream.
     
    01-02-2013, 02:41 PM
  #18
Foal
I agree the cooking spray works the best. My question on that is, is it safe for a horses foot over time? I wont have to use it now that we have the pads but out of curiousity does anyone know of anything that can be toxic to a hoof? I realize its safe for humans to consume but can it hurt a hoof? And of course there is the original, olive oil, corn oil, grilling spray etc.
     
    01-02-2013, 02:49 PM
  #19
mls
Trained
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Originally Posted by CoconutMona    
Cooking spray works like a dream.
For a bit - anything greasy works. Until the combination of the heat from the hoof and the freezing temperature of the snow break down the chemicals and the spray, vaseline, etc melts or chunks away.
     
    01-02-2013, 07:15 PM
  #20
Weanling
Just an FYI, I've used rim pads for the last 7 years, but a few weeks before Christmas my mare got an ice chunk lodged between the rim and her hoof. I had to melt it out with warm water until it was small enough to removed with pliers, it had popped the pad out a bit so when she stepped back down I heard it slide into place. It bruised her hoof badly and my farrier came out and changed them to full snow pads. He had been moving away from the rim pads for a while but after seeing that bruise he was convinced now more than ever.

Nice thing is that my mare has smaller feet, 0's, and my farrier does a lot of sporthorses with bigger feet, so for me he saves their pads, disinfects, then whittles them down to fit her dainty hooves, saves me about $50 a winter in pads.
     

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