Seperation of the hoof wall

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    04-23-2012, 10:56 AM
Seperation of the hoof wall

I want to get as much info on this as I can. My furrier told me yesterday that my mare has a hoof wall seperation on her 2 front feet. He said she is sound and we just need to wait and see what happens.
I read things that may cause this problem and the only thing I can think of with my mare is that she gets stressed when I leave with my gelding for a trail ride. She always gets real sweaty and runs around. If I tie her she still sweats and paws the ground until I return. Could that cause her to have the seperation.
Thanks for the advice.
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    04-23-2012, 10:58 AM
Pictures would be very helpful to the farriers on the forum. It'll be hard for them to help without more information. Please post pictures if you can.
    04-23-2012, 03:24 PM
She has shoes on her front feet now so you really couldn't see the seperation right.
I'm new at this so how do I post pics to my reply?
    04-23-2012, 03:26 PM
I just did a quick look on google, this site has a pretty good explanation of how to take decent pictures.

Good Hoof Photos - How to take Good Hoof Photos

I do NOT agree with everything on the site, but they do explain and illustrate how to take decent photos of hooves and conformation angles.
    04-23-2012, 03:33 PM
I checked out the site and noticed that the horse in the pic is not wearing shoes and mine is. Will this be a problem. You really can't see the hoof wall seperation with shoes on. Isn't that true or do you think I should take pics anyway?
    04-23-2012, 03:37 PM
Originally Posted by hayburner    
I checked out the site and noticed that the horse in the pic is not wearing shoes and mine is. Will this be a problem. You really can't see the hoof wall seperation with shoes on. Isn't that true or do you think I should take pics anyway?
Take pictures anyways.

What is the specific concern for this horse? Do you feel that your farrier isn't doing enough? Is the condition worsening? Is it something you just want a second opinion on?

ETA When is she due for a reset? You could take pictures of the separation then.
    04-23-2012, 03:50 PM
She's not due for another 8 weeks . She was just shod. My concern is that I have no clue how she got this. She seems sound and I have been riding her. I don't know how long this has been happening because I changed furriers as my old one never showed up due to poor weather and whatever his problems were. It was taking so long I pulled both my horses shoes and looked for a new furrier. When he came out to shoe them he noticed the seperation.(he also mentioned that my old furrier might have seen this and said nothing to me). I am clueless about this type of thing and have been doing alot of reading and looking up things on the computer. I know it can lead to laminitis so its a pretty serious thing. I've had this mare for 4 years and she's always been sound. But as I stated earlier she gets very stressed out when I leave with my gelding . So much so that she breaks out into bad sweats ., runs around the pasture, kind of has a tantrum. I tryed tieing her and she paws the ground and still gets soaked. I read that one of the reasons this could happen is if the horse is stressed or if a mare is in heat too long (hormonal changes). I just want to know if it can be fixed and when my new furrier said well keep our eye on her what does that mean. I don't want to wait until she goes lame. He says that she is sound and theres nothing we can do but see what happens.
Ques. Can this heal itself????
    04-23-2012, 04:01 PM
My opinion is yes it can. BUT she needs to be shod properly. Posting pictures would help the forum farriers determine if there is something in how she is shod that might be causing this.

I went through this with my gelding when I first got him. He had typical long toed TWH feet. I didn't want him in stacked shoes. I wanted his natural movement. I swapped farriers, went barefoot, blew through more farriers than I care to think about, trimmed his feet myself until I got a new farrier, and we are still working on correction.

It all depends on the horses individual hooves, needs, usage, etc. That's why I said post pictures. It will give folks online an idea, at least, of what his possible issues are. Without the pictures we could speculate all day and be no closer to any kind of helpful answer. With the pictures we could do the same, but it is one step closer to finding answers. At least it was for me anyways. I'll look and see if I can find his before pictures and post them so you can see what I mean about angles.
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    04-23-2012, 04:23 PM
Ok I found a couple so you can see the changes that a half way decent trim made. This I think is the day after I got him, and 3 trims later. He still needed a lot of work. Thin soles, over grown bars, long toes, under run heels,and stretched white line were some of the terms the *barefoot trimmer" and the farrier used.

The first picture is huge and of horrible quality, but you can see the area that was crammed full of mud and gunk. This valley was the depth of my hoof pick.

The second picture you can see a LOT of improvement, but we still had a long way to go. I'll look for better pictures that show the separation better.
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    04-23-2012, 04:27 PM
The second picture you can already see how much the seperation had grown out. We shortened his toes and he was put into a regular exercise program. Turned out 24/7 also.

We were also fighting the worst case of thrush I had ever dealt with at this point.

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