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post #21 of 39 Old 06-04-2013, 03:14 PM
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I don't know much about shoes at this point, but I don't like it. Like others have said, her feet are beginning to run too far forward. Her toe is long and her heels are starting to creep beneath her. I can't comment on the shoes as I barely know anything about them, but her back feet worry me the most. Do you see how her hooves bulge at the front? That would be "bullnosing," where the laminae is pulling away from hoof wall. It can definitely be very uncomfortable. The only way for it to be corrected is for it to grow out. Henny had the same problem and now he's almost done growing a be hoof. His "new hooves" are a lot more healthy and correct than his old hooves. I'd have those toes backed up and get those heels up under her where they should be. It's a bit of a long process depending on how quickly Ephy grows her feet.
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That's called I wouldn't be having that farrier back. Lots of issues there that didn't just happen. I would not be at all happy with that shoe job.

That's why we as horse owners got to become educated on proper trims and shoe jobs. Its up to us As owners to make sure those hoofs are done right.
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I am no Farrier, but u don't like either one of those jobs by just looking at them. Those feet look in terrible shape, and the bad shoeing job makes them look even worse. Did he nail the shoes on blind then rasp the hoof to match?
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Honestly he was NEVER this bad until the last re-set. I don't know what happened to make this happen but he just really slacked off. Its really discouraging.

I was really wondering if I was being over dramatic about it because he has always done amazing work. He was never one to fit the foot to the shoe, he always fit the shoe to the foot.

He does follow the "Natural Balance" technique which he learned in the UK. He shoes all the big show barns here and is booked weeks in advanced. He is the farrier in our region.

That said, I am not at all happy with his work this time around.

The only options I have for farriers are natural balance guy, or the second farrier who used to shoe my horses growing up and goes for yearly "updating" with the farrier I used to have in Calgary who I loved dearly. There are no other farriers I can use.

To be fair, Mare does not have the best feet in the world. But that is no excuse for poor work.

I told my coach tonight I want to switch back to the other farrier and she was not impressed with me. She said I should be sticking with him as he is the best and he knows his stuff. I told her its a money issue *sigh* I don't want my horse to suffer because I feel like I should be following the trend.

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Is there any particular reason why she's in the NB shoes? I've always believed that those shoes were therapeutic and only used on horses that needed the added help with breakover for soundness (like navicular horses).

IMHO, they serve absolutely no purpose on a sound horse and can actually cause issues because they can't be shaped to the hoof (as can be seen in your first pictures where the toe of the shoe is wider than the hoof by quite a bit).

All in all, I would not be happy with the job that farrier has done. Those feet are just, well, ugly, all the way around (hind feet too).

I agree with your decision to go back to that other farrier. After he does her the first time, why don't you post some updated pictures on here and folks can tell you whether it looks like he did a better job or not.
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Is there any particular reason why she's in the NB shoes? I've always believed that those shoes were therapeutic and only used on horses that needed the added help with breakover for soundness (like navicular horses).

IMHO, they serve absolutely no purpose on a sound horse and can actually cause issues because they can't be shaped to the hoof (as can be seen in your first pictures where the toe of the shoe is wider than the hoof by quite a bit).

All in all, I would not be happy with the job that farrier has done. Those feet are just, well, ugly, all the way around (hind feet too).

I agree with your decision to go back to that other farrier. After he does her the first time, why don't you post some updated pictures on here and folks can tell you whether it looks like he did a better job or not.
I didn't know NB were only for therapeutic use He shoes all horses in the NB shoes so I figured it was just another style and since everyone is so gaga over it I thought it was the way to go.

I am going to have the other farrier do her in two weeks as she will be due then and my friends gelding will need to be done so we will have him out to do both. I will get pictures and post. I suspect I am going to get an ear full from the "new" farrier and an "I told you so" lol.
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There are a lot of folks that use them on their horses all the time, but I believe that a farrier should be able to shoe the hoof well enough that a sound horse wouldn't benefit from the different shoe.

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I do want to add that the front right is a mess because she pulled a shoe a couple weeks ago and a good chunk of her hoof wall with it. Which is why the nails on the front right are a bit weird.

I don't know if that makes a difference. Though I don't think that is any reason for her hoof angles to be so awful.
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I don't know much about shoes at this point, but I don't like it. Like others have said, her feet are beginning to run too far forward. Her toe is long and her heels are starting to creep beneath her. I can't comment on the shoes as I barely know anything about them, but her back feet worry me the most. Do you see how her hooves bulge at the front? That would be "bullnosing," where the laminae is pulling away from hoof wall. It can definitely be very uncomfortable. The only way for it to be corrected is for it to grow out. Henny had the same problem and now he's almost done growing a be hoof. His "new hooves" are a lot more healthy and correct than his old hooves. I'd have those toes backed up and get those heels up under her where they should be. It's a bit of a long process depending on how quickly Ephy grows her feet.
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Thank you for your input. I know you have been going through hell with Hennys feet as of late, so I appreciate your opinion.

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Just looking at the hooves and shoeing job. I would not be happy and would be searching for a new farrier.
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I agree....something really screams 'off' big time to me!
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