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        06-04-2013, 10:37 PM
      #31
    Trained
    Is there an option to haul to another farrier in another region? We are in the same boat as you, shortage of farriers, fortunately all of them are decent but none take on new clients, so peops haul 2 or 3 hours to a farrier. My farrier was one of the super stars around here, I have been his client & his friend for over 20 years. He has always done a stellar job EXCEPT for last year. He ignored my vet's instructions, both horses had lost shoes shortly after being done, although he does come the next morning to replace them if it's not a weekend, but that don't help me on a Sunday morning before a show, does it? Hottest bloody day of the year and I am pulling clinches from a back shoe so the horse can be shown with fronts only (he threw the other back one), I would've had to pull all of them if he threw a front one! He did come Monday morning & replace both backs at no charge. His mother was dying from bone cancer and he kept going out of town to be with & he broke his wrist so he was really backed up, his work sucked compared to what it was for the previous 2 decades. The end of September, I pulled the boys shoes myself and trimmed, this guy and another farrier had taught me how plus I stalk farrier forums. In the meantime, I lined up another farrier, very good one but only does it parttime. I have known this guy for decades as well, he used to give instruction in trimming also. I had him go out to my daughters place as she lives a mile away from him, he trimmed one of her horses & shod the other, did a good job, but then went on holidays so I was screwed as my horses were tenderfooted on the trail & I also had a show fast approaching. I called my old farrier and told him to come out & shoe them but follow my trim pattern, could he? I had got the flares off Scotty through the winter and angles almost perfect, Indy always had good angles, but I needed his toes squared at the back, the farrier said yes. I came home from work and my instruction were followed to a tee, we'll see happens next week when they get done again. Sarah, the purpose of this long winded reply is you must be diligent when there is a shortage of good farriers. Don't go down the road of new age crapola, go with tried & true, stalk the farrier forums, talk with farrier - what is up with the shoe job, wonky angles, etc.? If he can't give you a decent answer, time to move on to soleone who can make Ephy's hooves look normal, honestly if any of horses' hooves looked remotely like that, I would be livid. Good luck kiddo!
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        06-04-2013, 10:47 PM
      #32
    Showing
    If his work was fantastic before this, I would be there for his next appointment and ask questions. Ask about the angles, the NB shoes, the big mustang roll on the front....you never know, something might have happened that caused his last trim to be so careless--an injury, time constraints, etc. It's not an acceptable finished product obviously, but with a shortage of farriers, I would at least ask.
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        06-05-2013, 12:08 AM
      #33
    Trained
    ICK!!! There's just too much... ick to say more. I'd personally get the shoes off this horse & get her poor feet into some semblance of health. With a horse that has apparently 'sunk' and 'rotated' away from the walls so much, I'd definitely be wanting support underneath & relieving walls. I'd do away with those heavy shoes & find a farrier that can shape the shoes (& what they're attached to) better if you are going to keep her shod. With a horse that has apparently 'sunk' and 'rotated' away from the walls so much, I'd definitely be supporting underneath & relieving walls.
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        06-05-2013, 12:23 AM
      #34
    Trained
    Now after reading responses, I agree with others OP that unfortunately the second guy doesn't look like a better option either. I would definitely be forgoing shoes if I only had those 2 options. I also don't think it looks like he was just having a bad day - there is too much wrong & not enough evidence of previous 'right' if he's been attending this horse regularly for some time. Of course, couldn't be sure, only going on pics & what you've said, but if you really think he was just having a bad day, call him up & ask him to come back now & do a proper job.

    Yes, NB shoes are meant for rehab/corrective type stuff, not general use. While I don't like the way he's done it & don't agree with it being squared either, backing the toe up is about the best thing that he did(but why didn't he do the looong hind toes too?) - not that you need special, expensive shoes for that either. It's obvious this horse's hooves are way forward of where they should be, so backing up the toe is one bit of that. Unfortunately it's not going to help the crushed heels, and many have noticed that long term use of NB shoes seems to somehow encourage further contraction & heel crushing.
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        06-05-2013, 08:32 AM
      #35
    Green Broke
    I wouldn tbe so quick to jump ship, at least gove the guy a chance. But I definetly wouldnt be paying for that type of work. I don't care how famous he is that job isnt acceptable. If he is any good he knows it.
    Id just put it like this. " Umm I wasnt to happy with the last shoeing job, doesnt seem like the angles are right.
    There are a couple possibilities.
    1. He knows it was shoddy work and will fix it and not be lazy in the future.
    2. He will make excuses, which you should not tolerate just expect them to be right next time.
    3. He will make claims you don't know what your talking about in which case fire him.
    4. He thinks he is doing good work, fire him.
         
        06-05-2013, 11:05 AM
      #36
    Weanling
    Ooooh that makes me cringe!
         
        06-05-2013, 12:05 PM
      #37
    Green Broke
    Thank you everyone for your input. I appreciate this in a huge way.

    I called the second farrier today to set up an appointment. I will see what he can do, I am going to tell my farrier I just can't afford him right now because I quit my job(which I did).

    Bare foot is not an option for various reasons.
         
        06-05-2013, 01:14 PM
      #38
    Yearling
    If those feet get any worse barefoot may be the only option.
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        06-05-2013, 03:24 PM
      #39
    Started
    Interesting about the natural balance shoes. Slightly off-topic but when my farrier just put shoes on my horse a few weeks ago, he put a set of natural balance shoes on the hinds and squared off the toe...
         

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