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    06-02-2012, 09:33 PM
  #11
Showing
Loosie, we all have much to learn from Mark. I hope your reference to his "growing up" doesn't cause him to withdraw his wonderful knowledge. Can you fill his boots if he leaves?
     
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    06-02-2012, 09:43 PM
  #12
Trained
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Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
Loosie, we all have much to learn from Mark. I hope your reference to his "growing up" doesn't cause him to withdraw his wonderful knowledge. Can you fill his boots if he leaves?
Somehow I doubt any of my words could cause Mark to do anything, so I wouldn't worry yourself. No, he has a rather different set of knoweldge & experience to me(obviously) so I wouldn't want to even try to 'fill his boots'. It's just a pity he has to be so obnoxious & disrespectful about his opinions. Glad virtually everyone else here don't feel the need to throw insults around like a child in order to express a disagreement or difference of opinion.
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    06-03-2012, 12:01 AM
  #13
Yearling
I enjoy reading about and following Mark's experience also but the snark at times is less than desirable and a hindrance to learning no matter what side of the hoof you are on. I find the information whether shod or bare wonderful and occasionally helpful when it is delivered in a clinical fashion minus the emotion. A good trimmer/farrier is a good trimmer/farrier and will not leave a horse in pain or unprotected EVEN if it isnt with metal rims necessarily. There is NO problem with a niche being filled by a good trimmer who can and will refer a client to a farrier when needed. I've done it in some cases and im sure others have as well. Can we stop arguing this point now?

Clearly, both methods have a time and place when applied correctly where they are applicable for different horses and owners. Maybe you could just ignore each other so we can get on with it minus the snideness. Lets move on. Please. We were doing good there for awhile keeping the learning environment minus the snarktastic remarks.
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    06-03-2012, 08:38 PM
  #14
Showing
I appreciate Mark's knowledge, his eloquence and that fact that he's forthright. If he chewed me out over hoof issues, I'd be sitting up straight and listening not worrying about whether or not he offended me.
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    06-03-2012, 09:16 PM
  #15
Yearling
There is a clear difference between forthright/straightforward and the snarky way he seems to address Loosie at times. It doesn't have any place here.
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    06-05-2012, 06:48 AM
  #16
Yearling
Garlicbunny,
I am by no means an expert! Of any sort!

I know its been asked but why did you take the boots off? Im just confused sounds like too much effort getting off to take boots off!

If no issues have been spotted in the last two weeks I'd doubt it was simply the short trim all of a sudden causing issues. Especially considering the 2 day gap between the ride and the lameness.
I'd be worried about the wall seperation allowing the rock in and make sure you watch closely for signs of an abcess in the cavity.
     
    06-05-2012, 07:58 AM
  #17
Weanling
Prinela, good question and I am surely guilty of not explaining things very well and or leaving things out. When he was trimmed I told her his feet looked shorter than they ever had. After that trim not even riding he was VERY sensitive to the rocks just going from barn to paddock so that was my first sign. I rode on a single ride without the boots and he seemed ok except for the rocks. I was told that the boots weren't designed to be on all the time (now that I write this it doesn;t sound right even to me, and it wasnt from my farrier but another). So after I got passed the last rocky area I got off and took them off which is easy to do, and he was fine until we hit the rocks in the driveway. It was paved but I am talking about the sparse rocks that are all over randomly. Does that answer your question?
Farrier comes every 5 weeks so is due next week I think, the appt. Is already made. I will discuss this with her more in depth at that time.
If my horse needs shoes, then shoes he will have, I will do what is best for him and that is why I wrote. I just don't see any point in making someone feel bad when posting..my posts or other people.
Here is something else..he bowed his tendon in October of 2010 so his shoes were pulled while he healed. On June 18th we brought our new mare home (my hubbys first horse) and 3 days later my horse got hit indirectly by lightning. It would have been only a couple weeks before I was going to start riding him again.. anyways he recovered quite quickly and I began like 2,5,10 minutes of riding him and he did very well, even breaking into a trot on his own at times. He would tire quickly though and that is why I kept the rides short. We got a qualified vet that does chiro/acupunture and he came along so nicely in a fairly short period of time. The weather here this year was unusually warm and I continued to ride him more and more and he handled the rocky area's just fine for a while but after more and more riding he began to try to go around these rocky area's for whatever reason so thought I would get him fitted for boots. They did the job, but he was just so much more tender just handwalking him..so THAT is the reason I think the trim has something to do with it. The posters have brought up other things like the hoof wall etc that I would have never thought about and for that I appeciate but don't appreciate being made to feel like money is the only issue and that I don't care about my horse..sorry about the book, but hopefully I explained things better than I did the first time. :)
     
    06-06-2012, 01:28 AM
  #18
Foal
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Originally Posted by loosie    
Somehow I doubt any of my words could cause Mark to do anything, so I wouldn't worry yourself. No, he has a rather different set of knoweldge & experience to me(obviously) so I wouldn't want to even try to 'fill his boots'. It's just a pity he has to be so obnoxious & disrespectful about his opinions. Glad virtually everyone else here don't feel the need to throw insults around like a child in order to express a disagreement or difference of opinion.
actually, I didnt find him rude or obnoxious at all.. but did find yours that way..

To each, their own..
     
    06-06-2012, 02:12 AM
  #19
Trained
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Originally Posted by equi    
actually, I didnt find him rude or obnoxious at all.. but did find yours that way..
Apologies to others, that I sunk to the bait that time. Yeah, in this particular thread he only made assumptions about me leaving horses to suffer & made noises about my 'dogma', so nothing rude I suppose. I usually try to avoid the hooks, but sometimes I feel it needs a response....

Anyway, on with the respectful, considerate opinions & advice that seem to abound on this forum...
     
    06-06-2012, 07:41 AM
  #20
Weanling
I did not find Loosies post rude at all, just informative and somethings to think about and talk to farrier about. I actually thought Marks
comment was meant for me, not Loosie..anyways lets please forget all this and go on. Just in case anyone wants to know I will post again after the farrier comes. Thanks you guys..
     

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