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post #21 of 61 Old 08-03-2013, 09:21 PM
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Looks like he's foundered before those hoofs are horrible those are not healthy hoofs.Lots of big time issues going on there you need a good farrier.
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post #22 of 61 Old 08-04-2013, 07:58 AM
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I agree, these hooves look like as they are suffering from chronic laminitis. What is his diet? Is he IR? I think he needs a much better trim and a diet adjustment. The problems with the hooves is a symptome of a cause. If the cause is not addressed (diet and trim), the symptome will not disappear.

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post #23 of 61 Old 08-04-2013, 08:40 AM
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I definitely thought founder as well at first..that could be your underlying culprit to his lameness
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Not the worst feet I have seen but bad. Remember no hoof no horse. I know you said he is more sore without the shoes, but if you can find a certified bare foot trimmer and work together with diet, environment, and trimming it will take time but he will be better off. There are great boots on the market to help him until his soles toughen up and as long as their is no damage to the inside of the hoof which can only be seen with an x-ray, then shoes are causing more damage. A good feeding plan is going to go a long way to help your horse. The water is not the biggest culprit here there are other factors at work, the horse is not growing a good hoof and that has to be fixed from the inside. Keeping a horse stalled on shavings will make it worse. The shavings dry their feet out and horses are made to walk and move about, which promotes circulation in the feet, which is needed to grow and toughen the feet. If you must keep him in a stall just put sand in it, and keep it clean. Best of luck.
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post #25 of 61 Old 08-04-2013, 09:45 AM
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Sand mixed with some rice hulls would be good. Rice hulls seemed to stay drier than shavings.
If that's his feet after they've just been trimmed, I would get a different farrier or trimmer.
On a side note, how can you see if there is white line separation on a horse with shoes? Mine are all barefoot, so it's relatively easy, but shoes cover so much up.

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What is he being fed? What kind of conditions is he living in?

We have had over 2x the normal rain fall here this summer. The last ride I took I noticed my horse was a little touchy on gravel but her feet are still all in one piece.
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He is on an all grass diet. Only gets hay in the winter (high quality orchard or Bermuda) and never gets grain. He is not insulin resistant. I know I was looking back at the pictures and I was thinking that they looked worse than I thought they did! I may look into getting some boots so he can still be outside but give his hooves time to grow and harden until dryer weather comes. I never thought of founder/laminitis before. Like I said he seemed sore but I didn't notice it until I was riding him. Then again when I lunged him and he was limping ever so slightly on the left front. He doesn't seem sore when I walk him from the pasture or standing tied or anything. So basically what I'm saying is he never acts like he's in any pain until he has to work.
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Sand mixed with some rice hulls would be good. Rice hulls seemed to stay drier than shavings.
If that's his feet after they've just been trimmed, I would get a different farrier or trimmer.
On a side note, how can you see if there is white line separation on a horse with shoes? Mine are all barefoot, so it's relatively easy, but shoes cover so much up.

When the farrier came the other day both he and I saw his bare hoof (bottom) and there was so separation. My farrier would have seen it and told me.
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I know everyone's first reaction when they see hooves this bad is to say that you need a new farrier, but seriously my farrier is not the problem. Obviously you all don't know my farrier personally but he specializes in problem hooves and is very smart and I trust him. I wish I had pictures of what his hooves looked like before. If you saw what his hooves looked like before he came you would know what a difference he has made. When his hooves are this bad there is only so much a farrier can do (short term), I'm more interested in the long term and so is he.
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Wow. Those are the worst feet I've ever seen. Poor poor poor Buddy!

Is he on a hoof supplement? SmartPak makes one called SmartHoof that my mare is on. She does well with it.

Looks like he has had multiple abscesses that have blown out. Ouch!

What does your farrier say?

Buddy is just a mess.
First of all sorry for posting so much. I didn't see this comment. He is on a hoof supplement- BioTime. About abscesses- are you talking about on his front right near the hairline? Because I saw that yesterday and was wondering about it.
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