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        01-22-2013, 03:22 PM
    Green Broke
    Oh no I completely trust my farrier. I just won't see him until next week and I worry to much. So I'm trying to figure out if I should worry more than normal? I feel bad calling him out for one horse when he will be here next week for the rest so I am just waiting until the appointment. I always try to make sure to find at least one other horse to go in on my appointments so he's not driving out just for one horse. But I can't change the appointment now since there is like 10 other horses on next weeks and trying to get ahold of all the owners would be worse than pulling teeth.
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        01-22-2013, 03:52 PM
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    I agree with the above stuff.

    Lacey used to have this same "issue" when I was still using a farrier. Now that I'm doing her myself, and have her on a every 1-2 weeks trim schedule, there hasn't been anymore "squaring". :)
    It was weird because her hooves didn't look long but apparently, mechanically, they were over-long.
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        01-22-2013, 03:56 PM
    Show us pictures before and after the trim. The one other thing that could be a problem is if the horse is toe walking. That is a big problem.
        01-22-2013, 03:58 PM
    Green Broke
    My farrier doesn't seem to be as most think about them here. He would much rather her go barefoot except she really can't because of wearing them too much during riding season.

    I'm just not understanding how they can be long if there isn't really anything past the white line? Heels aren't underrun and toes aren't stretched forward. The backs didn't start to square until we got ice on the ground.

    Due to my own back issues I will never do my own horses feet. Picking them just starts to cause cramps.

    The front squared just this last time but we also rode quite a bit while she was barefoot. About 200 miles or such in 8 weeks and alot of it was road riding so that didn't surprise me. Her hinds were very concave just at the last trimming but now they seem to have worn flat.
        01-22-2013, 03:59 PM
    Green Broke
    Originally Posted by Trinity3205    
    Show us pictures before and after the trim. The one other thing that could be a problem is if the horse is toe walking. That is a big problem.
    What is toe walking? I will have my farrier check how she moves but I'm not sure how well it will be because of the footing.
        01-22-2013, 04:32 PM
    It means the horse is landing toe first when it walks. This is a precursor for navicular syndrome.

    Honestly? We just can't tell you much more than whats already here without some pictures. With a couple photos we could tell you if you actually have a potential problem or not. Otherwise its just all guessing. No length above the wall means different things to different people. I need to see the hoof.
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        01-22-2013, 04:35 PM
    Green Broke
    Okey. I will get pictures tonight. Hopefully my phone won't distort them. But I will have a helper to hold her still.
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        01-22-2013, 04:45 PM
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    My lot are all barefoot and have been on hard ground, icy ground and ridden on grit sand and they still had to have some growth trimmed off when the farrier came last week so I can't see how Lizzie is wearing her feet away 'naturally'
    The only time I see that to any extent is when I do any amount of riding on tarmac or similar hard road surfaces
    If her arthritis is getting worse with the cold weather maybe she's dragging her feet rather than picking them up - either catching the toes or sliding the whole foot flatways across the surface
        01-22-2013, 06:49 PM
    Green Broke
    I never thought of her arthritis but the backs started wearing when we stopped regular riding. I doubled her msm dose for winter so she gets a scoop morning and night. I have photos but not by a computer right now. Her fronts have a really bad toe callous? Where the sole has a bulge on the toe so that's what's hitting the ground? Not sure how to explain. I will try to get pictures up tonight but I have class til 9 so it might not be til morning.
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        01-22-2013, 10:02 PM
    Sorry, I only skimmed the other replies. When you walk this horse on even ground, pavement or concrete, does she land heel first, flat footed or toe first?

    My horse was wearing the snot out of the toes of his hind shoes at one point with farrier #6. He said it was just how the horse moves. I didn't bother to tell him it never happened with the other 5 farriers before him. It was the trim. Toes too long and heels left too high. If your horse is landing toe first, you have either a trimming imbalance or a problem higher up the leg. It hasn't happened since.

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