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Summer's Vet/Farrier visit

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        08-01-2014, 11:45 PM
      #11
    Foal
    Either way, what has been done, cannot be undone. I watched the video, and there isn't much difference in Summer's feet and the 4 point trim in the video.

    She will be fine, I am sure, especially with boots, and if it helps her regain balance, and regain structure she had lost from not having her feet done right, then all the better. Still haven't gotten pics tho. Time is limited for me unfortunately. To me, it didn't look like he took any more off of her walls than he normally does when he rounds her out. I think her legs are stiff from the correction, as well. She is on bute for a couple of days just in case.
         
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        08-02-2014, 12:50 AM
      #12
    Trained
    Yeah Patty, I think what you describe is sometimes helpful/necessary, to deal with stretched/flared feet, but it is NOT my idea of a mustang roll... perhaps then, if that's what a 'MR' is taken as these days I shouldn't be using that lable! ...Maybe as I'm Aussie, brumby roll will do!

    OP, I would be very watchful of her at least, for a while, if she's also stiffer in the legs, due to trimming - that sounds like a tendon issue. So did this vet do any bodywork on the horse as well?? Could be that she's very aware of tendon issues & the likes, and that she released muscles & such before & after the trim, to allow however much was changed, but you haven't told us that, or what else you were advised, so we're concerned, knowing how detrimental sudden changes & removing too much material can be. The ends too often don't come close to justifying the means, especially if it can be done more gradually without issue.

    ...And I don't have a clue how that ad has attached it'self to my post!
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        08-02-2014, 09:23 AM
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    Maybe as I'm Aussie, brumby roll will do!
    rofl!!!!
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        08-03-2014, 10:34 AM
      #14
    Foal
    The vet surprisingly didn't do anything with her as far as body work, which annoyed me a bit. Summer had nearly fallen quite a few times while the farrier worked on her, but the vet was sure it was because of her feet. She told me that all of her current back issues is because of her feet. While I can accept some of that, Summer should have, by all rights, been having these issues all along and she hadn't.

    She did note that summer's spine was sore near her croup and said she may have rolled and injured herself and that's also causing her falling issues. I do need to get her a new saddle, as she said my mare is wide in the shoulders. She also said for me to not ride her bareback, even when I told her that Summer is MUCH happier bareback than even with a saddle (english or western). She also suggested that Summer has Quarter Horse in her, and I told her I saw her bloodlines, and unless it's wrong, she is full Thoroughbred

    I have been watching carefully, and if my mare does not improve within the next few days, I will be calling her back and I will also be calling my regular vet (Which I think I will do anyway, just for advice). She is walking a little better, but not as good as I want her to be. I did see that she is rolling, though. She also is much more willing to walk than she was the day after. I had to coax her out of the barn with goodies the next morning .
         
        08-03-2014, 06:28 PM
      #15
    Trained
    Oh I'm sorry to hear all that further detail Backlight. So what exactly did you pay this chiro vet(is she an actual registered chiro??) for?? Was it purely to instruct the farrier? Did you pay her yet, because.... well, I'd be grumpy.

    Sounds like you shouldn't be riding in the saddle you have & given other advice, I'd be considering whether the not riding bareback is worth heeding... Hope you're keeping her 'scalped' feet well padded.
         
        08-09-2014, 03:50 PM
      #16
    Foal
    Well it's been a week. A week of hoping Summer would get better. A week of watching her get worse. Worse to the point she barely holds herself up. She isn't urinating well - there are spots in her stall where she did but they are small and all over.

    The vet had said that I should expect her to be better in 3 - 4 days tops.

    Her feet are still a little tender. No heat - no pain as far as I can tell. It's her legs and her back. She has to be massaged with liniment every morning. She struggles to hold herself up. It's NOT her feet!

    So I called that vet this morning and told her my horse is worse and I want her to come right what she wronged. She said sure... If I pay her... I don't see why I should pay her to come look at summer again when she didn't address what I had originally called her out for.

    What do I do?

    Do I get my vet out to see her? She had recommended that if the doc she gave her didn't work, summers next step is the hospital. I can't afford the insane bill that would be. Do I make this other vet pay for it? I'm at a loss and so scared my mare is going to go down and not get back up again :(
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        08-10-2014, 03:46 AM
      #17
    Trained
    Oh! Are there any other vets in your area?? Sounds like she needs urgent attention, esp if she's not urinating. Any good bodyworkers around? Is it possible vet did actually tweak something, or the untreated body issue has suddenly become worse, effecting kidneys or some such. Sounds like you can't very well trailer her anywhere. I'd also make sure you document everything in detail, with dates. Altho if this vet did nothing besides instruct the farrier to cut her feet too short, don't know if it's relevant to what's going on now. Laminitic attack is something that comes to mind as slight possibility, but if feets are better... who knows... only speculating.
         
        08-10-2014, 05:06 AM
      #18
    Banned
    Sounds like everyone has been looking at the wrong spots and just doing a lot of guessing.
    Sounds like kindney trouble or urinary track infection.
    Be a good idea for both you and the horse too find a good horse vet and do some tests.
    Maybe just a simple case of needing some anti biotics.
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        08-10-2014, 10:13 AM
      #19
    Foal
    Call any vet you trust to come out and see the horse immediately. You can make a decision about hospitalization IF it comes to that. Ask this hypothetical vet if there is blame to be laid on the previous one.

    If so, present the bill and treatment notes to the other vet in a polite but firm manner. Their response to that will dictate whether you wish to pursue the matter further if they refuse.

    But get that horse treated first, and right away. I hope she pulls through for you!
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        08-10-2014, 10:46 AM
      #20
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    Originally Posted by Blacklight    
    So I called that vet this morning and told her my horse is worse and I want her to come right what she wronged. She said sure... If I pay her... I don't see why I should pay her to come look at summer again when she didn't address what I had originally called her out for.
    Diagnosing and treating soreness in a horse is even more difficult than in humans. How many times do people have to go back to their doctor because the doctor didn't get it 100% the first time, but needed to look again, test again, ask more questions, diagnose what the first treatment was and its effect? Vets don't offer any guarantees because they can't. Pay the vet.
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