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    07-17-2014, 08:20 AM
  #11
Weanling
To those who are asking about my "anti-shoe" stance - thanks to Clava, this blogpost says it the way I have been trying to:
Rockley Farm: Bar shoes and such...

Also - my horse's heels are not short... in fact, I think they are too long. Then again, I am not a trimmer.

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    07-17-2014, 08:23 AM
  #12
Weanling
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Originally Posted by squirrelfood    
Point is, some horses do better with shoes and some don't, and some do better with shoes just to begin with. So why would anyone with brains or feeling for the horse deny it anything that works, even if it only works for that moment in time?
My horse is not being ridden and is pasture sound (except when he is trotting around, but even then he is happy!). Since he is not unhappy/in obvious pain, then I would rather not use something that works for the moment but in turn adds more lesions to the DDFT and further irreparably deteriorates his navicular bone, which right now isn't that bad.

I didn't mean to start an argument, I would just love to hear personal stories... the BugZapper comment of anything I do that isn't shoes is a failure kind of kicked in my research side ;)
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    07-17-2014, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by squirrelfood    
So why would anyone with brains or feeling for the horse deny it anything that works, even if it only works for that moment in time?
Simply because shoes can be prolonging the damage long term, take the shoes off and start the healing earlier is why someone might do the barefoot route. With shoe on the wedges may provide very short term relief, but they are not attempting to fix the problem. The latest research even suggested improvements in the navicluar density, but you'd have to plough through the Rockley far research to find , I read the blog and don't have all the pertinent references at my finger tips. I will see what I can find. The problem is that MRI scans are extremely expensive and having the rehabbed horses retested is costly so rarely happens, as most owners are just happy to have sound horses again.
     
    07-17-2014, 08:37 AM
  #14
Weanling
Clava, this site is fantastic!!!

I love hearing these stories of xrays/MRI taken after barefoot rehab, and the bone damage and lesions are HEALED!!!!

Rockley Farm: Surprise, surprise...not really a "degenerative" disease after all...
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    07-17-2014, 08:43 AM
  #15
Showing
My qh was diagnosed with navicular in one front. The farrier was trimming his soles so close a perfect picture of the P3 was visible thro the sole which left the sole with no protection. When a new farrier left the sole alone, removing only around the wall and frog, he was sound by the second trim. .
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    07-17-2014, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by aharlov    
Clava, this site is fantastic!!!

I love hearing these stories of xrays/MRI taken after barefoot rehab, and the bone damage and lesions are HEALED!!!!

Rockley Farm: Surprise, surprise...not really a "degenerative" disease after all...
Yes, that is what I was talking about They are making incredible progress and it is really fascinating to follow. If you have a specific question Nic Barker will be as helpful as she can be (I understand from others who know her).
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    07-17-2014, 08:53 AM
  #17
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Clava    
Yes, that is what I was talking about They are making incredible progress and it is really fascinating to follow. If you have a specific question Nic Barker will be as helpful as she can be (I understand from others who know her).
I definitely do, would I just leave a comment?
     
    07-17-2014, 08:56 AM
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I definitely do, would I just leave a comment?
I think there is a contact email on the main website.
     
    07-17-2014, 09:16 AM
  #19
Weanling
Thanks, I just emailed them, waiting to hear back! Hopefully they don't care that I am inquiring from the States, haha
     
    07-17-2014, 09:25 AM
  #20
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Originally Posted by BugZapper89    
You need to understand, that if this horse is Navicular, that no matter what you do it is only a patch. There is no stopping this disease. There will come a day, when its game over. Whoever told you shoes contribute to the problem is an idiot at best. What works for one horse, doesnt work for all, but you need to relieve pressure to relieve the pain. As my vet would say, "if you are not going to listen, then why did you ask and stop wasting my time ". He is fine with people getting a second opinion from the top equine hospital we have, but not just blowing his suggestion off.
Each day you leave this horse lame, the less likely you are of a successful outcome
The decision was made Before the thread was even started so anything you - I or a Vet says is going to make any differance.
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