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post #21 of 171 Old 07-17-2014, 10:34 AM Thread Starter
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Funny thing amigo- I have read stuff from you before. You aren't willing to change your mind either ;)
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I have a 15 year old saddlebred mare who started her life as a 5 gaited show horse. I got her in 2007 and show her steadily starting in show pleasure (with show package shoeing) and finally ending up with a stellar all around horse. She did everything and anything I asked. I ended up winning 4-H state equitation on her both years I showed in 4-H and she qualified several times for the William Shatner saddlebred National western pleasure championship class. She has many wins in saddleseat huntseat western hunter hack dressage trail barrels... you name it, she could do it! She came up lame one time about a year ago. I thought she just needed a reset because she has had some on and off trouble over the years. I was away at college and the situation probably got neglected longer than I woudl have if I'd been home. This spring I took her to Peter Kanter, equine lameness specialist in Buffalo. He said she has one of the slightest cases of navicular he has ever seen. She barely limps, but I probably will never be able to show her again. He said with her age that I should just ride her and use her. He prescribed a bute a day (or half if it made enough difference). 16 years old is nearing retirement for some saddlebreds anyways, so he said just do whatever it takes to enjoy her while I can. He said light riding (no jumping, barrels, etc.) wouldn't cause that much more additional damage than just normal turnout will. He said it could get worse at any point for any reason or it could stay exactly the same until the day she dies. I haven't yet started her on the bute or regular riding, but I'd like to. I wouldn't be able to take her to shows that drug test anymore, but I think I could live with that. I also thought about getting her back in shape (and behaving, she's still super spunky) and then leasing her out to a local teenager.
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post #23 of 171 Old 07-17-2014, 10:42 AM Thread Starter
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Also- I didn't ask for advice, I asked for stories! I have yet to read one success story where shoes healed navicular disease, but I have read plenty of stories where barefoot has healed navicular disease (yes, true radiograph diagnosed navicular)... So I am going to try barefoot first and see what happens, if I need to use shoes I will.

Why is it that pro-shoe people tend to get do angry?
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Enc- thanks for sharing. I would love to hear progress as you start riding again!
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post #25 of 171 Old 07-17-2014, 10:51 AM
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The decision was made Before the thread was even started so anything you - I or a Vet says is going to make any differance.
As far as I am aware there are no serious studies that have ever been carried out that can reveal any long term success rate for remedial shoeing navicular cases, certainly non compared with going barefoot.

Vets in this country are now realising that barefoot is a valuable tool for dealing with navicular cases and they are referring horses to Rockley for treatment, so some vet would agree with the OP.

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Funny thing amigo- I have read stuff from you before. You aren't willing to change your mind either ;)
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Not on Navilcular or the basic care of the horse.
I do not deal in VooDoo, qwack remedies or wishfull thinking. I go by proven methods and common sense.
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Not on Navilcular or the basic care of the horse.
I do not deal in VooDoo, qwack remedies or wishfull thinking. I go by proven methods and common sense.
Actually you do not deal in proven methods as there is no proof of remedial shoeing working long term, feel free to share the studies which show this if I'm wrong.
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post #28 of 171 Old 07-17-2014, 11:05 AM Thread Starter
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I have no idea what you are talking about.
Amigo said this statement in another navicular thread, I think he's getting confused ;)


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Funny thing amigo- I have read stuff from you before. You aren't willing to change your mind either ;)
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That DOES seem to work both ways.....
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Also- I didn't ask for advice, I asked for stories! I have yet to read one success story where shoes healed navicular disease, but I have read plenty of stories where barefoot has healed navicular disease (yes, true radiograph diagnosed navicular)... So I am going to try barefoot first and see what happens, if I need to use shoes I will.

Why is it that pro-shoe people tend to get do angry?
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I am neither pro-shoe (all my present horses are bare) nor pro-barefoot. I am pro-whatever best helps the horse. Nor am I angry at all. Please stop reading what isn't there.
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