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        11-25-2012, 10:33 PM
      #21
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by jillybean19    
    No matter her intentions, this person obviously isn't trustworthy enough to the OP to be caring for her horse (kicking a horse to get it to stand up?). And what if one of them injured the other? It only takes one time with one kick to start a lawsuit, something neither of them needs whether or not it'd be successful. I'd be pissed if this was my horse.
    thank you for understanding... if it was an emergency I wouldnt care But it was not. She could have called or texted me and said something considering I talked to her more than once today. She didnt mention it til we were both home and she told me flat out that she kicked my horse to get her to stand up. There is no need to abuse my horse... I appreciate her trying to help but she over stepped her boundries, what if one of them got hurt? Oh and she also told me she poured straight bleach on it and didnt dilute it. Trust me I asked alot of questions about how and why this situation occurred. Im pissed... its my horse not hers.
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        11-25-2012, 10:38 PM
      #22
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by poppy1356    
    So why not ask that person to not touch the horse? I didn't see where she has told this girl to stay away from her horse. I feel that proper hoof care is an essential so if this girl has never been told to stay away then she probably thought she was helping.
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    You shouldn't have to tell people to not mess with your horse without permission, just like they shouldn't enter your house or drive your car without your permission. Certain boundaries should be assumed. And it sounds as if the OP's horse is the kind of horse you don't mess around with unless you are given permission and instructions for doing so. I do agree with you that, if there was some reason she should assume that the OP was ok with this, then you would be correct.

    When it comes to picking up feet, though.... Unless my horse literally could not walk (i.e. An emergency), I don't think I'd even be comfortable with my friend that I trust so much pulling my horse out and dealing with her feet. There are so many things that can happen and it's unnecessary to do it themselves - let the owner know and take care of it.
         
        11-25-2012, 10:40 PM
      #23
    Green Broke
    But have you told her not to treat your horse before this? And I forget things all the time not sure why you put a time limit on when she can tell you. If you talk to this girl and have never told her to not treat your horse I still say she thought she was helping. As for kicking, I kicked my horse to get up after she laid down on me. If I had to get one up in pasture not sure how I could convince them to get up without some nudging. Kicked and kicked to hurt are two different things.
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        11-25-2012, 10:54 PM
      #24
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by poppy1356    
    So why not ask that person to not touch the horse? I didn't see where she has told this girl to stay away from her horse. I feel that proper hoof care is an essential so if this girl has never been told to stay away then she probably thought she was helping.
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    It is very clear that no one touches my horse for any reason due to her current ground work and training. She is very pushy and disrespectful and has to be handled by people with experience. Her bad ground manners are a liability so no one handles her and this is a very clear barn rule.

    I also stated in my original post that I constantly monitor her feet and she did not have it 3 days ago when I last checked them. I Have not been to the ranch due to the holiday and having family in town. This is the longest I gone without seeing her and completely checking her over. She sees a farrier once a month right now to get her feet in better condition. I Have only had her for 2 months now. My farrier will be out on the 3rd.

    My roommate did have good intentions and honestly thought she was helping but that does not change the facts. Someone could have been hurt, she could have ruined all the training I've done by mishandling her which has happened in the past and is a big reason for not allowing anyone else to handle her. My roommate also told me she kicked my horse and poured straight bleach on her hoof. Neither one of those is helpful and could have negative affects.

    THe point is that it is my horse and a simple phone call asking if she can treat it would have completely changed the situation. Just because someone is trying to help doesnt make it automatically ok. And I actually don't care that she handled my horse. Im mad that she kicked her and decided to treat her without my knowledge or a vet or another professional. I Also stated that my roommate always thinks there is something wrong with horses who are indeed just fine. She also does not have any knowledge of this subject either. Might be different if she knew what she was talking about. An inexperienced person can make the situation worse not better even if they are trying to help.
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        11-25-2012, 11:05 PM
      #25
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by poppy1356    
    But have you told her not to treat your horse before this? And I forget things all the time not sure why you put a time limit on when she can tell you. If you talk to this girl and have never told her to not treat your horse I still say she thought she was helping. As for kicking, I kicked my horse to get up after she laid down on me. If I had to get one up in pasture not sure how I could convince them to get up without some nudging. Kicked and kicked to hurt are two different things.
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    if I walked up and kicked your horse, you would be just fine with it? I highly doubt it... She admitted that she kicked her very hard and she would not get up so she went and got the halter and lead rope to get her up. What was the purpose of kicking my horse? I Could see as a last resort but not as a first choice. Ask, tell, then demand. She also has admitted to hating my horse and you can tell she has hard feelings towards my horse by the way she acts around her compared to the other horses. The kick was ill intentioned.
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        11-25-2012, 11:11 PM
      #26
    Yearling
    As for the time limit to tell me about a health issue concerning MY horse? Your funny... Im sure everyone will agree that it is perfectly acceptable to expect to be told right away if there is something wrong with THEIR horse... really I can't believe you even asked that... you might understand if you were in my boat and it was your horse but I paid for her, I pay all of her expenses and its my decision to make when something concerns her.
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        11-25-2012, 11:20 PM
      #27
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by jillybean19    
    You shouldn't have to tell people to not mess with your horse without permission, just like they shouldn't enter your house or drive your car without your permission. Certain boundaries should be assumed. And it sounds as if the OP's horse is the kind of horse you don't mess around with unless you are given permission and instructions for doing so. I do agree with you that, if there was some reason she should assume that the OP was ok with this, then you would be correct.

    When it comes to picking up feet, though.... Unless my horse literally could not walk (i.e. An emergency), I don't think I'd even be comfortable with my friend that I trust so much pulling my horse out and dealing with her feet. There are so many things that can happen and it's unnecessary to do it themselves - let the owner know and take care of it.
    Thank you! IT should be assumed and yes she is a hard to handle horse. She was walking just fine but had alot of mud build up from the constant rain here lately. Doesnt warrant the need to touch her feet. A Phone call letting me know would have been good enough. I mean seriously what if she got hurt, the 2 do not get along at all either. Disaster waiting to happen... Doesnt make me a bad person to expect people to keep their hands off my horse when its for their own safety....
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        11-26-2012, 01:59 PM
      #28
    Foal
    This will defiantly help.
    At your local feed/livestock store. They should carry mastitis medication application stuff for cows utters. My farrier recommended it to me to use instead of the waste of money thrush buster crud.
    I use it every fall and spring and the thrush is gone with-in two applications of it in about 4-7 days time.
    Depending on the horse and his living arrangements of course. If the horse is kept in dry conditions he will clear up quicker.
         
        11-27-2012, 03:27 AM
      #29
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Smokum    
    This will defiantly help.
    At your local feed/livestock store. They should carry mastitis medication application stuff for cows utters. My farrier recommended it to me to use instead of the waste of money thrush buster crud.
    I use it every fall and spring and the thrush is gone with-in two applications of it in about 4-7 days time.
    Depending on the horse and his living arrangements of course. If the horse is kept in dry conditions he will clear up quicker.
    How often? And how much? Any Specific ways to apply it? I Know what you are talking about and how to apply it to cows but I've never used it other than for mastitis...
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        11-27-2012, 09:25 AM
      #30
    Green Broke
    You must clean the feet very, very good before applying the dry cow treatment. Washing with dawn dish soap is best. It acts like a glue so if there is any dirt or bacteria it will seal it in. It is best to apply it then wrap the feet to keep the ointment in there to really seal out infection.

    I can't remember which one is better the today or the tomorrow treatment. But I know one is better than the other for thrush.

    I've never needed to get that extreme as the thrush buster usually takes care of it in 1-2 applications for my horse.
         

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