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post #11 of 41 Old 02-28-2012, 11:05 PM
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I get that trimming is a no brainer for farriers. My current one tells me about my horse, though. Her frogs are narrow, so he tells me. He explains to me that he is trimming her hooves low so that they spread out.

My farrier is male, my horse is female. Sorry if I worded anything funny, I should have specified so it was less confusing.

I never said I could do a better job than a farrier. I could trim myself if I really wanted to, but it would not be as good or as knowledgibly done as someone professional.

It doesn't matter what pricetag my horse is. Everyone drops a lot of money on a horse. They are not cheap. A farrier can mess up, and for that reason, I am choosy about who trims them and particularly who shoes them. I cannot afford a lame horse because my farrier screwed up.

It doesn't matter if my horse is $10,000 or $80,000 you would not be working for me because I quite honestly find you rude.
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post #12 of 41 Old 02-28-2012, 11:13 PM
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A trim may not be as much work or material as a shoe but it is equally important, it is what the shoe gets nailed to.

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post #13 of 41 Old 02-28-2012, 11:35 PM
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To answer the earlier question, if you don't like how this farrier is doing the job you hired him to do and you have another you want to hire, hire that one. Doh! Kinda no brainer.
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post #14 of 41 Old 02-28-2012, 11:55 PM
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I have had four barefoot trimmers all charging between $30 to $45 for bare trim and $ 80 -$90 for shoes and all but one were crappy. I had one who decided that I hadnt paid her in months and charged me 150 dollars... Ooo I was pissed because I always pay and always tip!! Another decided to cancel three times on me and when he finally made it out trimmed my pony soo far back she was lame for four days and tender for a 3 weeks. And the last one was just an idiot!!
The farrier a have now is amazing! I work with him as an assistant occasionally and I have never seen him shoe or trim wrong, I have seen him fix the worst cases and take the most care with the young and skittish.
He charges me 30 for my fillys barefoot trim but says he has an agreement with Grady (free of charge) hahaha.

If your not happy with what your paying for switch!! Trust your instincts and you need to be able to trust your farrier, my gives my kids a kinda of check up every time he comes, he can sometimes see things I can't when it comes to their wellness, and confirms or calms my nerves when I am unsure of something he's awesome!!!

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post #15 of 41 Old 02-28-2012, 11:56 PM
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I get that trimming is a no brainer for farriers.
Trimming is the most important part of the job. A poor shoeing set on a proper trim will do far less damage than an excellent shoeing set on a poor trim.

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My farrier is male, my horse is female. Sorry if I worded anything funny, I should have specified so it was less confusing.
That's what I thought after reading again.

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It doesn't matter if my horse is $10,000 or $80,000 you would not be working for me because I quite honestly find you rude.
You might be surprised, I can be quite agreable in person.

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post #16 of 41 Old 02-29-2012, 12:47 AM
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I am sorry and I don't mean to step on toes here but after taking the time to read all these post I must agree with bntnail. Rick has trimmed my horses for five years and did my fillies first trim, he doesnt have to see the horse move but will sometimes ask a new client to have their feet move if he has a concern, he does not explain what he is doing unless he is pointing out something important, he is not a mind reader and does not know what his clients want, for all he knows you just want him to show up give a great trim/shoe and get you back to riding.
Rick is in his 60s never took a class on trimming feet he learned from his father who learned from his father, not to mention he is a quite old man, I work for him an I know he likes to just do his job with concentration, "not the chatter of a woman" and again only picks up conversation when he feels he should inform the owner of something. It is the owners responsibility to point out concern again he is not a mind reader. He knows that I as an employee needs to know what he is doing and why so that I can explain to an owner and will explain to me practically everything he finds fit to. But I have also seen him shoe/trim six horses only saying things such as "hand me this", "fetch that", and my favorite "Stop chatting and hold this horse"
However, if that's not what you want then lucky for everyone there is plenty of diversity...
just saying a farriers ONLY job is to keep your horse sound, if you want more than that than make that clear, if you don't get what you want get another that fits your wants.
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post #17 of 41 Old 02-29-2012, 01:03 AM
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OP it is up to you which farrier you use. We don't know either one of these farriers so we can't say yay or neigh.

On another note, my farrier is brilliant and he's legally deaf. It's a big shouting match to talk to him so I prefer to keep quiet and let him do his work. I ask questions when I see it fit to.. and he never fails to give me updates because he knows I'm interested in my horse's feet.

Wouldn't trade him for all the farriers put together.

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post #18 of 41 Old 02-29-2012, 02:24 AM
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Bntnail, it's clear that you have the point of view of the farrier and don't appreciate the OP complaining. Fair enough, but you do not have to make your points with a helping of snark on top. If you are this "agreeable" person, please be so here, too. We'd like to meet that person.
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post #19 of 41 Old 02-29-2012, 08:16 AM
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OP, go with the new farrier. Cheaper and better, seems like an easy decision, but I know switching can be kind of sticky, especially if your farrier does the feet of other horses at your barn.

I personally prefer to know what my farrier is doing, I want to know specifics about my horse's feet. If you prefer not to talk and get the job done quickly, that's fine,I won't use you. I've switched from my last farrier for that specific reason. He did a good job, but he was too fast and didn't talk at all. I understand that for some people that doesn't make any sense, or would consider me stupid, but that's fine. My horse is my family, and it's MY choice whether I pay someone to do my horse's feet or not. For such a client reliant trade, and how important word of mouth is, you'd think some would be a little more gracious.

Bntnail, since you like to jump to conclusions about other posts, no, I do not want a slow and loud farrier. I want someone that is methodical, that asks questions about my horse, asks to see the horse move, how they handle their own feet (that's fine that someone can look at the feet and see what needs to be done. What about an injury the horse may have sustained that effects the feet, that the owner may be unaware of? This is why we pay professionals.), someone that explains the hows and whys about my animals. That's how I chose my dentist. He will explain things to me, he likes that I want to learn. I choose my farrier on the same basis.
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post #20 of 41 Old 02-29-2012, 08:20 AM
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OP, if you don't like the work anymore and have a choice and feel it's a right thing to do - switch! In the end YOU are the one paying for the service, he doesn't trim your horse for free.

I had very similar experience several years back: I started with younger guy (recommended to me). Pretty good job for the first couple trims, then it went downhill: the guy looked like he's tired and barely can trim, the toes on both horses were left longer and longer, so they were tripping and hoofs were chipping in week, and I had to re-trim myself 2 weeks after his "trim" (not fun and was hard on my back). After 2 or 3 trims like that I just cancelled next appointment and used another guy (I use for several years already).

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